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who can beat lin dan ?

Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by belfastnole, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. belfastnole

    belfastnole Regular Member

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    who do you think is lin dan`s biggest opponent for the Olympic gold medal?
    Gade, Wong Choong Hann, Roslin , Sony , Taufik or will his Chinese team-mates deny him?
     
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    HAwWW hard to say, all top 5 can actually win the gold medal but I'll say Gade.
     
  3. Syaoran_Style

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    Maybe....

    maybe taufik (if he come back at his best level) can beat L.Dan.
    i would say Gade too...but i'm not very sure =)

    syaoran ;)
     
  4. Gade supporter

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    No doubt Gade, but it depends on the stamina if Gade can hold up his tempo i would say Gade. But I would say the biggest favourites for Athen is Lin Dan, Peter Gade and Wong Choong Hann.
     
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    FYI, here is Lin Dan's result from the last year.

    9 Mar 2004 YONEX ALL ENGLAND OPEN 2004
    Winner Beat GADE Peter (DEN) 9/15, 15/5, 15/8

    2 Mar 2004 SWISS OPEN 2004
    Gold Medal Final Winner Beat BAO Chunlai (CHN) 15/12, 15/6

    16 Feb 2004 THOMAS CUP CONTINENTAL STAGE

    Beat LAOHATHAIMONGKOL Thirayu (THA) 11/15, 15/1, 15/4
    Beat LIAO Sheng-Shiun (TPE) 15/7, 15/7
    Beat NGUYEN Tien Minh (VIE) 15/12, 15/10
    Beat LEE Chong Wei (MAS) 3/15, 15/13, 15/6
    Beat SATO Shoji (JPN) 15/8, 15/8[​IMG]

    11 Nov 2003 CHINA OPEN 2003
    Gold Medal Final Winner Beat WONG Choong Hann (MAS) 17/16, 15/12

    [​IMG]27 Oct 2003 HONG KONG OPEN 2003
    Gold Medal Final Winner Beat POLSANA Boonsak (THA) 15/4, 9/15, 15/8[​IMG]

    30 Sep 2003 YONEX GERMAN OPEN 2003
    Gold Medal Final Lost to LEE Hyun II (KOR) 4/15, 4/15

    [​IMG]23 Sep 2003 DENMARK OPEN 2003
    Gold Medal Final Winner Beat CHEN Yu (CHN) 15/4, 15/6

    [​IMG]2 Sep 2003 PROTON EON MALAYSIA OPEN 2003
    1/32 Lost to KUNCORO Sony Dwi (INA) 11/15, 7/15

    [​IMG]25 Aug 2003 SANYO INDONESIA OPEN 2003
    1/16 Lost to SHON Seung Mo (KOR) 9/15, 15/3, 11/15[​IMG]

    19 Aug 2003 YONEX-SUNRISE SINGAPORE OPEN 2003
    Semi-Finals Lost to CHEN Hong (CHN) 8/15, 11/15[​IMG]

    28 Jul 2003 World Championships 2003
    1/16 Lost to XIA Xuanze (CHN) 10/15, 3/15[​IMG]

    1 Apr 2003 Yonex Open Japan 2003
    Gold Medal Final Lost to XIA Xuanze (CHN) 12/15, 10/15[​IMG]

    11 Feb 2003 Yonex All England Open 2003
    1/32 Lost to LEE Hyun II (KOR) 11/15, 6/15
     
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    I think Lin Dan's winning streak will end very fast, Everybody will be looking for his weakness.

    I cant see any, He's tall, powerful,good in defense, good in driving, smart, but I think prone to errors.Very much like Yang Yang.

    but sad to say I think someone has spotted a possible problem.

    he's a slow starter, like in sprints some people are quick off the blocks but tail off at the end whilst others accelerate at the end.(I think, sports science people can give a better idea).

    Lee Chong Wei beat him very quickly in KL in 1st set, and was leading 14-10 in 2nd but couln't finish. Wong Choon Han all but beat him in China Open but was distracted. Lee Hyun Il gave him a drubbing in German Open and in the past Taufik has laways beaten him.

    I think he can still stay ahead by knowing his own weakness, but any player whio is fast , powerful, good in defence, and who can quickly build up points quickly over 2 sets should be able to succeed soon.

    i think a bit difficult though as he is quite complete in all departments and probably getting smarter.

    all this is of course theory.
     
  7. cooler

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    I can, so can you.
    Just sleep on it... and dream :p :D
     
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    actually, imo, i dun think lin dan's a slow starter... i would think he's also human and prone to understimating his opponents like bao which would explain the loss of quite a few of his first sets during the thomas cup qualis... as for gade, perhaps he wuz troubled in the first or perhaps lin just wanted to tire him out... we wun know now will we... but based on current records, if gade could continue to win the first set (either by skill or by default of lin's tactics against him... whatever...) and somehow push thru the second, he would be the most likely one to topple lin...

    personally i don't think we should be looking at the data from too far away... ie past year...cos it wun give u a good picture of the situation cos he only started to peak near the end.. so even if lcw managed to defeat him in kl, it would not mean much now considering he's improved his game play by leaps and bounds...

    however, i do agree however with the fact that wch could have defeated him during china open and that may be a sign that wch may be THE ONE... but sadly he seems quite off form for now... and shows no signs of recovery just like taufiq...

    so honestly, i'd say, based on the looks of things now, that gade stands the greatest chance of defeating super dan but i reckon that chance is pretty slim anyway...

    anyway hope ronald gets to meet lin in the finals tmr... will be rooting for him against all odds... haha... :D
     
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    Bao Chunlai juz win Lin Dan in JO semi..... :(
     
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    Lin Dan is a fast-starter i think. But i agree with Bbn. i don't think that he would last very long as worl'd no.1. sure he's fast and has the advantage of young age. but you can see the lack of skill/experience in his dropshots (somtimes) and the hurry in his smashes.

    nevertheless, i believe for the olympic games, Lin Dan will still be in top form and will no doubt be in the finals.
     
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    How come Lin Dan lately is thrashing Kuncoro when last year, Kuncoro can beat him?

    2 Sep 2003 PROTON EON MALAYSIA OPEN 2003
    1/32 Lost to KUNCORO Sony Dwi (INA) 11/15, 7/15

    How come Lin Dan can thrash Kuncoro so easily lately 15-1?????
    Lin Dan seems to win him in ridiculously low scores compared to other players.

    last September only, Kuncoro can beat him quite easily!!

    Anyway, Kuncoro is a FAST, powerful player with sharp smashes.
    He can beat Chen Hong consistently and other players like Wong Choon Hann.
    Is he on the decline? If Lin Dan was to Kuncoro like Chen Hong is to Susilo, it will be more easily understood.

    Can anyone who watch some of Kuncoro's matches against Lin Dan please
    comment?

    :confused:
     
  12. Pebulutangkis

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    taufik can beat him without a doubt. when he's up for it he can beat anyone in the world. even chen hong had this god-like status now attributed to super dan but he was still afraid of taufik. i bet superdan will be scared of him too. in pure talent and smartness, taufik is the absolute best in the world. he just needs to get his attitude and physical condition right.
     
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    Wow.. Ronald Susilo won the JO. maybe he is the TWO?
     
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    if the game is to be played in Indonesia, without any doubts, taufik is the man that can beat Lindan...
     
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    At the start of the year I believed that Sony was most likely to challenge Lin Dan`s supremacy however when I watched him at the all -england(got his autograph) against shon it was obvious to me that he was struggling with his stamina if he had not won in 2 sets I was sure shon would have won in 3 ,therefore it was no surprise to me that he lost to lin dan next - having missed the korean open and reportedly skipping the abc it would appear that he is struggling to regain his excellent form of last year
     
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    what happened to Chen?
     
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    Bao. He just did, didn't he? ;)
     
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    He certainly did -however Bao is not certain to be in Athens and , in any case, I believe at the Olympics all the cards will be on the table and if Lin Dan is ,as it would appear, to be China`s top hope for ms gold he will not falter in matches against his compatriots
     
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    Yea, I somehow have faith in Taufik to topple Lin Dan (he lost to Bao already anyway). I really love the way Taufik plays...he has great tricks and style. No doubt that he has got some attitude problem but as far as i know, it only arrises when there is something to do with unfairness during a match. Really a true talented player and I am eyeing for him in this coming Thomas Cup. Playing with the support of his home crowd - there is surely something for him to deliver to his country
     
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    My vote also goes to Taufik. Look at how he beated Bao Chunlai in Sudirmen Cup last year, and also after a lopsided lose to Xia in the AE final a few years ago and he managed to beat Xia later that year.
     

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