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Will LYB retire after RIO?

Discussion in 'Olympics 2016 - RIO' started by pcll99, Dec 2, 2015.

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Will LYB retire after Rio?

  1. Yes, Cai Yu will replace him

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  2. Yes, Zhang Jun will replace him

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  3. Yes, some other person will replace him

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  4. No, LYB won't retire in 2016

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  5. No, LYB won't retire before Tokyo 2020

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  6. None of the above (please specify)

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  1. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    I don't recall such an incident. As far as I know, Zhang Ning is known to be very responsible and caring coach, at the LOG she was almost six months pregnant and still insisted on accompanying the team there for coaching instead of staying home. Perhaps, it was Wang Lin's third ACL incident and the previous two cases had caused phobia in her as she herself admitted every time she played, so ZN just wanted to make sure she's not crippled by psychological fear. Of course, if WL couldn't move she would stop and that's what happened.

    Remember, ZN's relationship with Wang Yihan is very close, almost like mother and daughter.
     
  2. renbo

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    WYH went over a row with ZN and was punished subsequently by not being selected for team event. Zhang Ning in interviews said it was because she did not listen to coach. Zhao Jianhua commented during a match that she had at least to give face, but she did not.
    Anyway, I wish I could find back the video of the last game of Wang Lin, it was very cruel, she wanted to stop but Zhang made her try again until she laid on the floor and refused to move.
    Zhang Ning is famous for being very hard on her, very tough on pain, contrary to XXF, and she might ask the same from the players.
     
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    I thought WYH not being selected for team events was Li Yongbo's decision as GC repeatedly said, and I believed Zhang Ning had to be objective and impartial but their relationship, mentor and disciple's, have always been very good. Anyway, I won't read too much into it, the fact that ZJH, ZN and many others including the players, remember WSX's differences with ZN at one time, could speak so freely - that to me is a very good sign of openness, transparency and accountability (hope it's not abused as so often happened everywhere).
     
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    Quite possible.
    Zhang Ning's disappearance from the prominent coaching staff was never fully explained. I think her maternity is only part of the answer.
     
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    Today in the South China Morning Post , there was a front-page story about Lang Ping, the female volleyball team coach. In 1982, she won gold as the striker at the Los Angeles olympics. She became a star. At this time, winning a gold was something extraordinary for China, not like today.
    Then she went to study in the U.S.. She was offered to coach team USA, and she accepted. In Beijing olympic, she lead the U.S. team to gold, beating China on their path. Many in China held her as a traitor at those time.
    After a few years, everything went bad for female volley, so 2 years ago Chinese officials called Lang Ping to be head coach. She said she is willing to come, but she needs no interference and total freedom. Officials accepted.
    She then got rid of the military-style training, the door-shut functioning that characterises all Chinese national team, and she invited foreign experts. The next year the team won WC. And this year, the gold at Rio. From traitor, she turned hero.

    The close-door military-style of coaching. Does that rings a bell?
     
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    More rightly said, OUTDATED physical training methods that caused several players prone to injuries and/or short-live in service/playing as well as players lacked in fitness aspect. This was one of several things that got fixed after Lang Ping's 2nd tenure as the head coach (kicked off in 2013) whereas she called in the services of foreign fitness expert and involved "more scientific approaches" in the training methods; ditched those dead woods (Wang Yimei et al) and basically rebuilt the entire team (Lang has been willing to give opportunities to those new potential players in many major competitions incl the latest one, Gong Xiangyu, 19 years old, in Rio 2016 OG), and so on....incl. overhauled the domestic league competitions (iirc).

    Read it somewhere about these issues but forget where it was :rolleyes:
     
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    Quite so!...
    But I should have put the quotation mark about the "military-style coaching", as it's the way she describe it herself.
     
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    Agree, Chinese Badminton needs a serious overhaul. Some new, forward thinking leadership. Time to send of the old guard and bring CHN badminton into the new era.
     
  9. pcll99

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    it seems Zhang Jun has a better chance than Cai Yun..

    http://sports.qq.com/a/20160930/038711.htm

    Well, Zhang Jun did win two Olympic gold medals, whilst Cai Yun only got one.. Besides, Zhang Jun has been coaching for a long time, so I guess he deserves it more than Cai Yun.
     
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    I read an article recently where Carolina Marlin coach mentioned about why his charge is now confidently able to beat the Chinese girls - high level tactical awareness vs high physical training and drilling approaches.
     
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    LYB will not retire, he will probably be fired first !
     
  13. pcll99

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    Finally.. it is true.
     

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