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Zhang Nan / Fu Haifeng

Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by zhuangcorp, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. zhuangcorp

    zhuangcorp Regular Member

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    Zhang Nan/Fu Haifeng are a new pairing from China. Obviously both of them are world champions, olympic champions, have been world #1 so they have great potential.

    Gill Clark said that this team has great potential and already plays with great class. Moreover, Fu Haifeng is now playing much differently. He's being much more active at the net as compared to when he played with Cai Yun. GC says that Fu Haifeng is now playing more freely.

    They are through to the QF of the All England, where they will probably play against the world #1 Ahsan/Setiawan.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltT38XZy-ko

    Found this video link. Cai Yun says that since Zhang Nan has been training in the first team for some years and Lu Kai has been only just admitted to the first team recently, Zhang Nan is a lot better at the moment.
     
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    I like this combination. Fu Haifeng still has it in him, he is good for another Olympics. From being more of a back court player with Cai Yun, he's the one who holds the big hammer in his thundering smashes, to now being able to play well at the front court too, shows his versatility and adaptability, amazing for someone already an older veteran at 30 in the badminton sense.

    At the moment, Zhang Nan may prove to be just the right partner for him to replace the retiring 34-yr-old Cai Yun whose present role is to help train younger colleagues. I look forward to seeing this pair rise and shine as quickly as possible.

    In today's AE'14 QF match with the WC Ahsan/Setiawan, the top seed, later on, we shall see how this pair perform; win or lose, it should give us an idea of their true potential. After watching their convincingly victorious match yesterday with Adcok/Ellis, I think I can afford to be optimistic that FHF/ZN's partnership will work out very well.
     
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    Has Zhang Nan and Zhao YL split?
     
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    No, Zhang Nan plays mixed doubles with Zhao Yunlei and Men's doubles with Fu Haifeng.

    Gill Clark also said she doesn't expect Fu Haifeng to last all the way to the next olympics.
    But Morten Frost said he believes that CBA is planning to use Fu Haifeng in the next olympics. I think Fu would be 32 or 33 by that time. I like that his new style of play isn't as much reliant on his power, but use more angles and positioning.

    Morten also said he is unsure if Zhang Nan will be a good MD player. Its hard to balance both events, XD and MD at the same time. Also, ZN has played with some other players like Chai Biao, Qiu Zihan, and hasn't had great results. But What i really enjoy about ZN is his style of Md is so different from CY's style. CY focused on speed and attack from the net. Zhang Nan focuses more on touch and positioning.
     
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    I guess it's still early days in the Olympic cycle.

    LYB obviously wants FHF/CY to pass on their experiences to others.

    It is also unclear whether ZYL can make it all the way to 2016 in two different disciplines, ie XD and WD. She is not young and has a bit of injury.

    I think Zhang Nan wants to play in both XD and MD. But his record in MD is not good.

    I think after Asian Games 2014, three pairs for each disciplines will be finalised (ie, for XD, WD and MD). These three pairs will begin to accumulate WR points starting in May 2015 till May 2016 for the purpose of qualifying for the 2016 Olympics . The best two pairs after May 2016 will go to Rio.

    Three players may qualify in two different disciplines: Zhang Nan, ZYL and Ma J.
     
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    I predict the 6 pairs that will go to Olympics will be:
    WD: YY/WXL and BYX/TJH
    MD: ZN/FHF and CB/HW
    XD: MJ/XC and ZYL/ZN
     
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    Md could be youngsters like Li Junhui etc
     
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    Too early to tell if they will be top3 pair but they have all china md strength, powerful attacks but do they have equally strong tactical play?

    usually new china doubles take the game by storm but later cool down when opponents found their tactical weakness. Pair like qzh/lxl, even zn/cb once we're showing great promise.

    caiyun and fuhaifeng, we're given the time to develop their tactical play because there were no good enough Chinese double players back then, with the swapping, not sure if it's good idea.
     
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    Well, these two lost a close match to Ahsan/Setiawan, although they had game point opportunities on both of them. Haven't seen the video, but I think this pair definitely has good potential.
     
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    Tragic loss for them, mentally not strong enough.
     
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    I think mental strength is not the issue, not when you've Fu Haifeng as well as Zhang Nan. It's more to do with being relatively new partnership, takes time to gel and settle in, building rapport and mutual tacit understanding on court and tying up the loose ends. Very likely, from their performance so far at the AE, the signs are good this combination will shine and CHN is dead serious and anxious about establishing a stable,reliable MD pair, esp with the Thomas Cup and the Asian Games round the corner.
     
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    i do not think mental strength is a problem. i believe one of the reason they are paired together was because both are Olympic champion.

    it will be tremendous pressure for a new partner of fuhaifeng but zhang nan has a gold medal thus less pressure because he has already establish himself but if a new kid of the block, it will be momentous pressure because your partner is a well known players, if they lose, people will say the new guy is not good enough.
     
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    Good to see that Fuzz will be playing at the India SS next month.
     
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    They certainly seemed like a good pair, I hope they will get a chance to play more than just a few tournaments together!
     
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    I expect this weeks Swiss GPG will be their first tournament victory.
     
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    They beat No3 seed Adcock/Ellis in the first round, their road to the QF and probably SF don't seem too difficult.
     
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    Well if Adcock/Ellis are seeded 3rd the road to the finals can't really be hard - unless the Koreans were experimenting again, which they aren't...well, let's hope they get a good match-up at one point to provide an entertaining match...let's hope Hong/Chai make it to the Final, with BoMo there it'd probably end up as another snore-fest (or with Kido/Fernaldi).
    Too bad they're in the same half as Lee/Tsai, that could've made an interesting Final as well. I also haven't the slightest idea why Shin/Ko went out to a completely unknown pair, somehow the Korean MD seems to be falling apart a little with KKJ/LYD banned...
     
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    Zhang Nan to Cai Yun : Ma Jin to Zhao Yunlei.

    I notice that Zhang Nan at the net does not go for the kill nearly as much as Cai Yun. And when he does, it doesn't have the same power or speed. Zhang Nan plays more like Ma Jin, happy to simple block the shuttle back.

    He should definitely try to improve on this area of his game.
     
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    Ya , he make too many mistake, should apply more on the drive, kill, back hand tap on the net more like what Hendra do for indonesia .
     
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    Has any man ever excel as a XD player as well as a net player in a MD pair?
     

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