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    Quote Originally Posted by ya4dang1 View Post
    It feels softer compare to BG80 at same tension (if you string it <28lbs).

    But beyond 28lbs, it feels hard and powerful. Stick to BG80 original if you play <28lbs.
    Good point - IME, BG80 starts to lose power past 30 lb, but I suspect 80P will carry on a bit further.

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    I may have to convert to this from zymax 62/65 for the sound alone! Power and tension holding are also good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckFeet View Post
    I may have to convert to this from zymax 62/65 for the sound alone! Power and tension holding are also good.
    Power yes, tension hold no. BG80P doesn't hold tension very well imo. I'm using 30-31lb and tension loss is quite noticeable at that tension. BG80P is very similar to VS850 in many respects, but if you're willing to sacrifice a little feel for tension hold, I recommend NBG99. My current go-to string.

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    Thanks for the recommendation. It's on my to-try list.

    I took someone else's word for it on the tension loss, will get carltune to verify. You never know, I might have done an awesome job stringing it

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    You have a stringing machine, why do you care about holding tension? You know you're going to cut the strings in a few weeks anyway.

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    Cost of string. Cost of keeping the wife happy while stringing. I'm lazy. Customers choosing this string should be advised it won't hold tension like zymax/will feel too tight initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckFeet View Post
    Cost of string. Cost of keeping the wife happy while stringing. I'm lazy. Customers choosing this string should be advised it won't hold tension like zymax/will feel too tight initially.
    A happy wife? What are they?

    Anyway, I think BG80P holds tension well enough for the average club player who strings around 24-26lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    You have a stringing machine, why do you care about holding tension? You know you're going to cut the strings in a few weeks anyway.
    Well, I don't play as much as I used to. Once a week at most now so they tend to stay on the racquets for some time.

    Cost and effort aside, it's actually quite wasteful to throw away good string just because the tension has gone down. It's like buying new tyres everytime the pressure goes down.

    Yes there's not a lot we can do the tension loss, but having tried many different strings that do retain tension well, it seems a shame that BG80P and other quality strings say VS850 couldn't do better.

    Admittedly BG80P isn't as bad as VS850, but it does lose tension relatively quickly. To give you an idea of how I perceive the tension loss, on a scale of 1-10 I would rate BG65Ti at 5/10, BG80P at 5/10, VS850 at 4/10 and NBG99 at 8/10.

    I love the consistency of NBG99, I get say 80% of the performance of fresh NBG99 right up until it snaps. Whereas with BG80P, VS850, BG65Ti I have to keep on stringing to maintain a good level of performance.

    I might try stringing a set of BG80P at an even higher tension, say 32-33lb and see how it performs when it drops to my preferred tension 29-30lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhirata View Post
    BG80 at 28lbs.. lasted me only six hours. BG65 at 33lbs.. lasted me a month. BG65 at 30lbs.. lasted me six months. BG65 at 29lbs.. lasted a year. i always got the same guy to string my racquet with bg65, he's really good.. different guy strung with bg80. it might be something to do with the stringer too, but srsly, six hours.. *disappointed*.

    I like the feel of bg80, so I hope that the durability would really be improved on this one..
    did you prestretch it?

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    Don't think that the stated durability from @jhirata is a general rule. Most of my customers play 3-4 times a week. The guys which go for 28lbs with BG80 according my database break it in 3-6 weeks depending on weather condition and play style.

    I doubt that BG65 lasts a month at real 33lbs. I string regular for a good friend ( high ranked junior state player in Germany) with BG65 @30/32lbs PS and he broke it regular in 2 weeks.

    IMO there is a bias towards BG65. BG80@28 vs. BG65@33, the BG65 will pop earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucantseeme View Post
    Don't think that the stated durability from @jhirata is a general rule. Most of my customers play 3-4 times a week. The guys which go for 28lbs with BG80 according my database break it in 3-6 weeks depending on weather condition and play style.

    I doubt that BG65 lasts a month at real 33lbs. I string regular for a good friend ( high ranked junior state player in Germany) with BG65 @30/32lbs PS and he broke it regular in 2 weeks.

    IMO there is a bias towards BG65. BG80@28 vs. BG65@33, the BG65 will pop earlier.
    I believe is depend on the player. How hard they hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1994 View Post
    I believe is depend on the player. How hard they hit.
    I believe that there are a lot possible reason for such a story, but building a rule of thumb based on a bad experience is too much for my ears. Especially when 2 different stringers are involved.

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