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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    If drop in were that much it better include dinner, drinks, and a massage afterwards.
    That would be awesome tho if it were like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquabeta View Post
    I actually disagree with the previous suggestions. Personally, I go to drop in with friends so we can play together
    The problem with this is that you are effectively reserving a court for you and your friends at a discount to renting a court. The issue is that the discount you enjoy is at the expense of the individual players you are screwing.


    However, I don't think you should FORBID a group of 4 from playing together.
    1) people play with friends because they're familiar with each other, nothing wrong with that.
    Yes you should 90% of the worst abuse of drop ins is done by cliques. Again, you want to play with friends.... you have the option of renting a court. With out screwing anybody else.

    2) what if a group of 4 (Random people) want a rematch? Are you telling them they can't?
    If there is a whole court available with no one else waiting then by all means. If there is a player or two signed on the board then no you can wait for the next time there is 4 spaces on the next court available. Why should other people have to accommodate your wishes?


    3) Competition! I feel this is the biggest issue because you can't just put 4 random people together. Players like to play within their skill level hence I don't agree with giving people numbers and assigning them to a court like a lottery.
    Well then drop in isn't for you, go book a court.

    I suggest a sign up board because you can write your names down and any individual can join in by writing their names beside yours. Names identify the person, so later on you can choose the correct skill level by signing up with people who you've played. Players who want a rematch or play with each other can simply sign up together on a brand new line but having to wait longer.
    This is just my suggestion..cheers
    Yes, that is the same old system and it never fails to get abused completely to hell. The point of drop in is to give a place for players who don't have a regular group to play with a chance to play the game with many different players. It also gives lower skilled players and chance to play with stronger players and thus improve at a quicker rate. Your way always just results in the session being taken over by cliques.



    If you are an advanced player only interested in playing with players at your skill level drop in isn't for you.

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    ^^ Well then how about different drop in nights for different levels of play? Then everybody will be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyjo View Post
    I heard drop in was $20? was that correct? and how much is court rental?
    Where did you hear drop in was $20 Joey? May have been a mis-communication somewhere. Court rental/reservations announcements news will likely be announced in the coming weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    The problem with this is that you are effectively reserving a court for you and your friends at a discount to renting a court. The issue is that the discount you enjoy is at the expense of the individual players you are screwing.




    Yes you should 90% of the worst abuse of drop ins is done by cliques. Again, you want to play with friends.... you have the option of renting a court. With out screwing anybody else.



    If there is a whole court available with no one else waiting then by all means. If there is a player or two signed on the board then no you can wait for the next time there is 4 spaces on the next court available. Why should other people have to accommodate your wishes?




    Well then drop in isn't for you, go book a court.



    Yes, that is the same old system and it never fails to get abused completely to hell. The point of drop in is to give a place for players who don't have a regular group to play with a chance to play the game with many different players. It also gives lower skilled players and chance to play with stronger players and thus improve at a quicker rate. Your way always just results in the session being taken over by cliques.



    If you are an advanced player only interested in playing with players at your skill level drop in isn't for you.
    Whoah, looks like I missed a good debate here. Thunder, as per previous discussions, I like the idea of allowing couples or pairs to stick together throughout the drop in night as I think that would encourage a lot more people to grab a friend and go play some badminton. I agree on your point if a group only intends to play together and use drop in as a discount method, they should just book a court. I actually don't have a problem of a group of 4 wanting a re-match or sticking together as long as arrangement are made with the drop in supervisor who could cycle this group's play on and off. If you want to stay together as a couple and play whomever the drop in supervisor assigns them to play, they'll get to play a lot more badminton that night.

    Still toying with a few ideas, but I think its a good and fair compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad-vancouver View Post
    Where did you hear drop in was $20 Joey? May have been a mis-communication somewhere. Court rental/reservations announcements news will likely be announced in the coming weeks.
    Off-court perks include an online booking system. On-court features include 33-foot-ceilings and the same specialized flooring surface as seen at the Olympics. Drop-in fees are expected to be $20 an hour.

    Read more: http://www.vancourier.com/sports/Bad...#ixzz1YqmWdirc

    Well i read that here... So I was wondering if it was true or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyjo View Post
    Off-court perks include an online booking system. On-court features include 33-foot-ceilings and the same specialized flooring surface as seen at the Olympics. Drop-in fees are expected to be $20 an hour.

    Read more: http://www.vancourier.com/sports/Bad...#ixzz1YqmWdirc

    Well i read that here... So I was wondering if it was true or not.
    maybe it should've said $20 per court per hour for reservation?

    $20/hour for drop in is even more costly than NYC clubs.

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    Interesting article but not entirely accurate.

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    My 2 cents on drop-ins (not that I do a lot of it) but if you don't have someone to supervise, it will get abused. I think the best is to use numbered tags. Each drop in get a number tag and you put it up on the board. For folks wanting a rematch, they will have to wait until there is a free court (usually skipping) but still has to be controlled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    Interesting article but not entirely accurate.
    Yeah, I like their definition of heavy/medium players are those who plays more than 10 times A YEAR! So for those who plays weekly, you can consider yourself to be extra heavy hitters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyjo View Post
    Off-court perks include an online booking system. On-court features include 33-foot-ceilings and the same specialized flooring surface as seen at the Olympics. Drop-in fees are expected to be $20 an hour.

    Read more: http://www.vancourier.com/sports/Bad...#ixzz1YqmWdirc

    Well i read that here... So I was wondering if it was true or not.
    looks like its a bit of mis-interpretation causing the confusion Joey

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    Interesting article but not entirely accurate.
    it happens Hopefully this isn't the only badminton story thats going to get picked up by the media
    Last edited by bad-vancouver; 09-24-2011 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winex West Can View Post
    My 2 cents on drop-ins (not that I do a lot of it) but if you don't have someone to supervise, it will get abused. I think the best is to use numbered tags. Each drop in get a number tag and you put it up on the board. For folks wanting a rematch, they will have to wait until there is a free court (usually skipping) but still has to be controlled.
    I was thinking about giving numbers out to each pair and having the supervisor assign numbers to courts. Also playing around with a few ideas for a computerized system for drop in as well. Hopefully that will alleviate any concerns about drop ins.
    Last edited by bad-vancouver; 09-24-2011 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    ^^ Well then how about different drop in nights for different levels of play? Then everybody will be happy.
    Thats a great idea, was thinking the same thing. Hopefully the segregated nights will lead to more people of similar skill coming out because they know what to expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    maybe it should've said $20 per court per hour for reservation?

    $20/hour for drop in is even more costly than NYC clubs.
    Any reason its so expensive in NYC? Other than real estate being at a premium. Kwun, I don't recall hearing from you on what makes a great drop in experience

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    at SBC, each member has membership card with picture id, drop-in card is issued to player with name and date.

    in order to play, player has to put the card on the so called play court board on the court number they're
    playing.

    when all courts are taken, there're so called wait board which has several squares where players place the cards on the board for next available court. each square has 4 slots to put the card on, player can place the card on any empty slot of the square. if 4 players want to play together, they have to wait till all 4 are available before placing the cards on the wait queue board.

    when a court become available, the players transfer the cards from wait board to play court board

    this is kind of self enforceable as players become familiar with the system, but still need supervising
    from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad-vancouver View Post
    Thats a great idea, was thinking the same thing. Hopefully the segregated nights will lead to more people of similar skill coming out because they know what to expect.
    I'm a bit skeptical on this simply because I'm not sure that the drop in customer base is large enough for such fragmentation. Also, skill level is very subjective.

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