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    Quote Originally Posted by bad-vancouver View Post
    udonming, I don't know, I suppose these are decisions weighed by other badminton centres on whether or not they are necessary to play badminton. As for discussing techniques on individual badminton stars, isn't that what badmintoncentral is for?
    heck. then you should place a computer terminal at the lounge that is permanently connected to BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumpsky View Post
    cold air settles. you don't need to AC the whole place. hot air will remain at the top.
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    you are correct! Works even better when you 33' ceilings.
    That would set up convection currents and affect the flight of the bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy75 View Post
    Probably more reason to provide some of those services so that customers don't have to leave after their games to acquire them. Maybe partnering with someone who's willing to open a bistro with small seating area inside the building. People don't like to travel too far for their wants, especially when they're hungry or thirsty after a long session. At least have a fitness center that caters to light to moderate workout to complement the sport.
    A snack bar should suffice. I'm not sure there is much demand for anything more. At VRC for example, I'm not sure how profitable the pro shop or the canteen have been. Most of the badminton players at VRC buy their supplies from HK and the Pro Shop simply can't compete in terms of cost. As for the canteen, I was a member there for 6 years and I don't remember buying a single meal from there. The bar on the other hand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    That would set up convection currents and affect the flight of the bird.
    They shouldn't be a factor. Any room is going to have an air flow. After all with out it you suffocate. You are going to set up a mini cyclone or anything.

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    a starbucks.

    just copy starbucks. serve drinks, coffee, fancy snacks. get local bakery to deliver scones, donuts, etc, everyday. and then stick that thing right inside the gym. don't put it at the entrance where nobody can see. stick it right at the gym sitting area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    a starbucks.

    just copy starbucks. serve drinks, coffee, fancy snacks. get local bakery to deliver scones, donuts, etc, everyday. and then stick that thing right inside the gym. don't put it at the entrance where nobody can see. stick it right at the gym sitting area.
    That's a great idea!

    Open a franchise there, rent the space out, include an outdoor patio so that we can look at the passing barges...

    Even the local workers in the industrial area may swing by for a caffeine fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    That's a great idea!

    Open a franchise there, rent the space out, include an outdoor patio so that we can look at the passing barges...

    Even the local workers in the industrial area may swing by for a caffeine fix.
    i mean seriously. combine the frontdesk, the equipment shop and the "starbucks".

    afterall the front desk person isn't doing much most of the time, just probably checking facebook anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    They shouldn't be a factor. Any room is going to have an air flow. After all with out it you suffocate. You are going to set up a mini cyclone or anything.
    So! You been lurking near the seabed with only passive sonar... and now you decided its time to up periscope!

    A large warehouse-type area will have some circulation, yes, but it can easily be the wrong kind of circulation; if you want to be really nit-picky because it's badminton we're talking about, then you need to ensure the vents are placed in positions that cancel out any drift. Not easy. You need strategically located roof vents IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i mean seriously. combine the frontdesk, the equipment shop and the "starbucks".

    afterall the front desk person isn't doing much most of the time, just probably checking facebook anyway.
    LOL kwun. A coffee bistro is a good idea, grab your favourite espresso drink, sit down and just people watch. Vancouverites are well known for their affection for coffee. I'm not a fan of starbucks though, with their new machines, all the grinding, dosing and tamping is done internally inside the machine. Where is the hand crafted quality that a quality espresso drink needs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad-vancouver View Post
    LOL kwun. A coffee bistro is a good idea, grab your favourite espresso drink, sit down and just people watch. Vancouverites are well known for their affection for coffee. I'm not a fan of starbucks though, with their new machines, all the grinding, dosing and tamping is done internally inside the machine. Where is the hand crafted quality that a quality espresso drink needs?
    Second Cup is a nice company. Canadian too! Or Lettieri maybe? LOL. I would think all of that is a bit incidental; the on-court experience will bring the "returning customers" and not the coffee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    Second Cup is a nice company. Canadian too! Or Lettieri maybe? LOL. I would think all of that is a bit incidental; the on-court experience will bring the "returning customers" and not the coffee...
    some delicious fruit smoothies would also go great, for those who want to be healthy. Protein added fruit smoothie anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad-vancouver View Post
    some delicious fruit smoothies would also go great, for those who want to be healthy. Protein added fruit smoothie anyone?
    Yeah, sounds good and healthy.

    Also perhaps bubble tea would sell better than coffee to the mostly asian population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Yeah, sounds good and healthy.

    Also perhaps bubble tea would sell better than coffee to the mostly asian population.
    kwun says no...

    basically, badminton clubs nowadays needs to be upgraded to be truely a club in the westernize way

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    VRC is a private club though... entry is via an electronic key-locked lobby entrance. Even if the restaurant is good, which it isn't, no outside customers will be able to get in to eat there. However Pro shop is a necessary addition though. No respectable baddy facility can be without one. Community centers, however... have none. BV can seek partnership with a business to locate there rather than rent out the space so price would be competitive enough to get customers to buy. And these days not everybody buy their supplies from HK, the demographics has changed somewhat that pro shops could thrive. People still impulsive buy given the right price and presentation.

    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    A snack bar should suffice. I'm not sure there is much demand for anything more. At VRC for example, I'm not sure how profitable the pro shop or the canteen have been. Most of the badminton players at VRC buy their supplies from HK and the Pro Shop simply can't compete in terms of cost. As for the canteen, I was a member there for 6 years and I don't remember buying a single meal from there. The bar on the other hand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy75 View Post
    VRC is a private club though... entry is via an electronic key-locked lobby entrance. Even if the restaurant is good, which it isn't, no outside customers will be able to get in to eat there. However Pro shop is a necessary addition though. No respectable baddy facility can be without one. Community centers, however... have none. BV can seek partnership with a business to locate there rather than rent out the space so price would be competitive enough to get customers to buy. And these days not everybody buy their supplies from HK, the demographics has changed somewhat that pro shops could thrive. People still impulsive buy given the right price and presentation.
    Well, I don't know what the business model is for Badminton Vancouver is. Talk about making it like a western style club would actually infer some type of non public structure (membership based).

    I agree some kind of Pro Shop is a must but, I'd be surprised to hear of any recent pickup in business at the VRC proshop or any other gym. Yes you need one for the odd emergency shuttle purchase and you definately want on onsite stringer but, that's about it. When I was a member at VRC there was a big influx of those god awful SOSSAN (or some such name, black label). Now someone is distrubuting some discount brand from the PRC (Hanyu I think). So I'm not sure that the proshop at VRC has seen a pick up in business. Even as far as racquets go, it is still the rule rather than the exception that people are having raquets sent in from Asia. In fact, I'm sure that on my next visit to Vancouver our mutual friend GW will be asking me to carry in a few racquets for him. However, your there right now and I'm not so I'll defer to you on what the local scene is like in the GVRD.

    Either way, I look forward to hitting a few shuttles with you at the new gym on my next visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    So! You been lurking near the seabed with only passive sonar... and now you decided its time to up periscope!

    A large warehouse-type area will have some circulation, yes, but it can easily be the wrong kind of circulation; if you want to be really nit-picky because it's badminton we're talking about, then you need to ensure the vents are placed in positions that cancel out any drift. Not easy. You need strategically located roof vents IMO.
    Nah, in the abscense of any forced air system you simply aren't going to have a big enough temperature gradient to create localised air flow strong enough to influence the shuttle. This is Vancouver we are talking about here. Maybe in Toronto you might have that problem but of course that would mean you're living in Toronto so life already sucks. Adding an aggrevating drift to the shuttle flight is but an insignificantly minor nuisance lost in an existence of unending misery.

    ..... down periscope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    Nah, in the abscense of any forced air system you simply aren't going to have a big enough temperature gradient to create localised air flow strong enough to influence the shuttle. This is Vancouver we are talking about here. Maybe in Toronto you might have that problem but of course that would mean you're living in Toronto so life already sucks. Adding an aggrevating drift to the shuttle flight is but an insignificantly minor nuisance lost in an existence of unending misery.

    ..... down periscope.
    Thanks, thunder, that's all I needed! A subterranean lurker adding insult to injury!

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