I've never played with these or even seen them this side of the pond. I've only used Victor Champion No.1 which used to be very good but now seems like quality has gone down. http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d56963174 How are these in comparison to high quality birds, like Aerosensa 40, etc.
The best I've tried so far have been Yonex AS50 and AS40. Haven't tried Victor Champion No.1. Tried Victor Tourney (bought at club pro shop) twice and hated it. Either it's a bad batch or they just plain suck (I think it's the latter). Trying RSL Classic Tourney and Yonex AS30 next. Hope that helps.
jacky I think you should stick with the Champion No.1 . I have like few tubes of them and its pretty good. If you think the quality gone down then maybe switch to even higher ones? Master ACE or Master No.1
I've used Victor Champion and found them to be very good in terms of consistency but a little slow for the courts I use. I understand Victor have been busy sourcing new suppliers and they've also begun rebranding their shuttles internationally so you'll soon be seeing the Master series. Paul www.badminton-coach.co.uk
Victor seems to be reshuffling their shuttlecock series. formerly they have Champion and Tourney series. now they have been replaced by Master and Champion series. that means Champion has been downgraded to Tourney quality. anyone who wants to get the same Champion quality as before will have to start looking into the Master series instead.
I have just brought few of tubes of Victor Master No2. So far consider acceptable quality n speed... but if you comparing to Yonex As40 still prefer AS40..
I am wondering if this is true or whether VICTOR have found a better shuttle and decided to call it Master? Anyone know?
I not really sure as i seldom used Victor shuttle... I only started to use this Victor shuttle this few month under Master series.. So far i can say their quality and value for money..
Only in your dream. This is the tactic everyone does to raise prices, introducing a new one with higher price but practically the same old one, only new cover/presentation. The old one will either be discontinued or downgraded. Look at the Aeroplane thread for the photos.
There is always hope. Well I have tried Gold and Service and have to say that the Service shuttles were poor. The flights of all of them wobbled but the Gold were better. Both had good durability but neither were outstanding. There are cheaper shuttles that are better.
We switched to Victor Master No1 recently. However, the durability is bad. We spent average 3 shuttlecocks for 2 games. We could finished a dozen of shuttlecocks on 2 hours game. Yonex Aerosensa AS30 is much, much, much than Victor Master No1.
My club (approx. 100 tubes per season) used to play with Yonex AS30s, but we've noticed a drop in quality over the last few years. Last year we trialled Victor Service, Yehlex Championship and Yehlex Tournament. The Victor Service was considered the least poor in terms of quality, though all 4 brands/grades were close. In the end we went for the Yehlex Tournament because they were significantly cheaper & they have since proved to be similar in durability to what is now marketed as AS30s. Coming back to your question, I would say that Victor service are marginally better and cheaper that AS30s. Probably not as good as AS40s, but substantially cheaper.
How do 'Victor Master Ace', 'Victor Master No.1', 'Li Ning A300' & 'Yonex AeroSena 50' compare im terms of speed?
The biggest criteria for me moving from or not from Yonex was shuttle quality. I needed faster shuttles. Victor provided them and I have to say they have been magnificent. i always used Aerosensa 40's for my coaching and residential courses. Initially I was nervous using Gold Champion shuttle which are considerably cheaper than AS40. However, they really have been as good as AS40 in terms of consistency in flight and durability. I am now 100% confident in my Victor shuttles and perhaps I am the only coach in UK with speed 79 although they are available. And yes, i do need speed 79 in some of the halls I coach in. So for me Gold Champion are equivalent to AS40 except they are £2.30 per tube cheaper. That's incredible value. I'll stand by what i have said previously and they fly slightly slower than Yonex so you may need to consider speed selection. But I have no doubts about the quality of Gold Champion shuttle. Paul www.badminton-coach.co.uk
I don't like fast shuttlecocks,I play victor champion no.1 all my life.In fact,I have problem with fast birds.The other birds I would buy are yonex As50 and zinston tournament grade birds.Mmoa birds are ok.no matter how expensive they are.mmoa follow victor's foot steps developing it's business here,however,oh well,........,speechless......