Is there an official Olympic points ranking?

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  1. 2cents

    2cents Regular Member

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    I saw the unofficial Olympic ranking in Chinese: (after China master)

    男单 女单
    排名 姓名 国家 积分 姓名 国家/地区 积分
    1 佐佐木翔 日本 43406 郑韶婕 中华台北 44267
    2 阮进明 越南 41339 内瓦尔 印度 41717
    3 陈金 中国 39070 汪鑫 中国 40994
    4 林丹 中国 38416 王适娴 中国 35106
    5 盖德 丹麦 38193 王仪涵 中国 34460


    男双 女双 混双
    排名 姓名 国家 积分 姓名 国家 积分 姓名 国家/地区 积分
    1 郑在成/李龙大 韩国 49501 田卿/赵芸蕾 中国 40848 陈宏麟/程文欣 中华台北 43722
    2 蔡赟/傅海峰 中国 47911 河贞恩/金旼贞 韩国 40392 阿马德/纳西尔 印尼 39900
    3 高成炫/柳延星 韩国 43815 于洋/王晓理 中国 39955 李胜木/简毓瑾 中华台北 39396
    4 阿山/塞普塔诺 印尼 34241 前田美顺/末纲聪子 日本 38725 徐晨/马晋 中国 34946
    5 尤里安托/古纳万 印尼 32060 松尾静香/内藤真实 日本 37775 张楠/赵芸蕾 中国 34460

    Anyone knows where to find the official updated one? Thanks
     
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    I find it extremely hard to believe that LCW is not at the top or even in the top 5 of the rankings. Where was this found?
     
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    not sure about the official one but I keep an unofficial one since May this year in;

    http://www.mediafire.com/?mf3pzz2rt9p31
     
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    well, before the Japan Open LCW only played 4 tournaments since May that's why he was behind in terms of OLY qualification.
    He is back on top now after the JO, only by 21 points though!

    http://www.mediafire.com/?mf3pzz2rt9p31
     
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    I read that from Sina. LCW mentioned that he's ranked 7th in the interview of Japan open.

    It's not hard to believe at all. The reason is the BWF points is nothing but count how many matches the player had played 1 week ago. LCW skipped many tournaments, such as Singapore, China master, Taipei.

    Winning 1 SS, earning 9200 points (by winning 5 matches lossing 0) cannot earn as many points as playing 5 SS but all lost in first round, which earn 11000 points (by win 0 while loss 5).

    That's the absurd system made you "extremly hard to believe". winning 5 matches in a row without lossing to grab a SS title only grant you 9,200 points, while lossing 5 matches in a row without winning will bring you 11,000 points.
     
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    thanks, must be a great job! unfortunately, your site is blocked due to private network and storage on my computer, I will check using other systems.

    Or could you attach to this badmintoncentral file folder? Thanks
     
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    well, as only the top scored counted toward the ranking that should still work out.
    the current system is by no mean the best, but what's the alternatives?

    unfortunately the limit of file size forbidden that, sorry.
    even i can't get to my own files at office!
     
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    well, it always happens; too big to read, too good to read, too important to read, too rich functions to read.

    thanks anyway.
     
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    By the way, to reflect the points more accurate, we should consider the strength of the points. For example, since there are so many tournaments there, we cannot compare LCW's 4 tournaments with someone else's 12 tournaments. Since there are totally around 13 SS and above tournaments annually, now only 5 of them passed. So it's 5/13 = 38%. Considering only take the best 10, so now we only need to think the best 3.8, rounded to 4.

    AlanY, could you make another ranking by calculating the best 4 tournaments results for each player, then you will find the strengh of their ranking points. LCW, LD should be the best in this strength correction, other than Sasaki, Nguyen leading the ranking
     
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    That's NOT the olympic points. That's the points for the past year, while the olympic points calculated from May 2010.
     
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    the spreadsheets are set up to calculate the top 10 results only and can be easily to change to top 4 as suggested. just change the formula in column D from 10 to 4. just be careful that its a array formula, treated it with cares.


    Before
    1 MAS Lee Chong Wei 45647
    2 JPN Sho Sasaki 45626
    3 CHN Lin Dan 44836
    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 44613
    5 CHN Chen Jin 44110
    6 VIE Tien Minh Nguyen 43559
    7 CHN Chen Long 37900
    8 KOR Lee Hyun Il 35710
    9 GER Marc Zwiebler 28806
    10 KOR Park Sung Hwan 26593

    After (top 4 t'ments)
    1 MAS Lee Chong Wei 38647
    2 CHN Lin Dan 34096
    3 CHN Chen Long 33100
    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 31773
    5 CHN Chen Jin 31450
    6 JPN Sho Sasaki 26340
    7 VIE Tien Minh Nguyen 24319
    8 CHN Du Pengyu 20930
    9 KOR Lee Hyun Il 20830
    10 INA Simon Santoso 19974
     
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    Excellent! Thanks. It seems that the Japan open dramatically change the ranking.
     
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    That's why the minimum participating rule, eventually BWF world ranking points
    will be the same as Olympics ranking points by May,2012.
     
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    thanks, great infomation. Anyhow, I don't think the average makeing sense at all. Think about this example, if LCW participated any tournaments lower than SS, even he won the title without any loss, he would downgrade his average.

    It'd better provide the Best 3, 4, 5 totals, that's the best way to show the strength.
     

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