Record of walkover and retired between same country player since 2006

[eaglehelang]

There are already a few threads on this issue, including discussing BWF policies, in which each side of the camp have given the points of debate many times. Whatever it is, neither camp will change their minds regardless.

As for Olympics, there is quota system for every sport if not mistaken. England being the host, was hit when the Cycling Association changed the rules from 2 per country in 2008 to 1 in 2012 and certain events only top 2 from the whole region get to go. After some grumblings they lived with it & move on.

As for the view the if other countries have the ability, they will surely employ this tactic, not necessarily so. Sports in democratic countries is different as it is using taxpayers money(one reason). Public outcry, players/athletes filing complaints, calls for officials resignation,etc,etc can happen. Examples of these have also been given in the other threads.

This thread is for presentation of data, for the BWF policies discussion, perhaps find those threads and read and continue

[rosid]

wildcard??

[Fortune]

First of all,Why are you comparing past with present.

simple. In the past, the regulation quite fair. That's why the rate of w/o or ret by china players was very low : 0.86 %

May be the past was unfair and the present may be more fair.The BWF be doing it for benefit of the game.

just answer my question : if lower ranked player can go to WC while higher ranked player can't go just bcoz the quota / country, then where is the fair ? if saina nehwal can not go to WC just bcoz she represent china and only world # 15, while world # 150 from XYZ country can go, is this fair ?

Now for your argument of #9,#10 players not able to play but 50,60,70 ranked players getting chance.I am giving you an example from tennis doubles in london olympics.A player ranked 12 did get chance but a player ranked above 200 got chance.But no comments that they are being unfair to them.

first, the #12 player represent which country ? Second, where is the final ranking prior to 2012 OG so I can know which country suffers the most in table tennis

And for the last,As you have said Indonesia got a wild card in WS.This statement is absolutely wrong.She was given "Re-distributed unused quota" which was the same with Li Xuerui.

As long as I know, LXR qualify by the regulation, while INA WS qualify by wild card

[Fortune]

wildcard??

as reported by almost every (if not all) media in Indonesia. I never heard INA WS qualify to OG not by wild card.

[Fortune]

That's true. But if China chose not to deploy the tactic, then this thread will never appear too.

if china choose not to deploy this tactic, then we will never seen Chen Jin playing in Olympics. very simple.

[scorpion1]

simple. In the past, the regulation quite fair. That's why the rate of w/o or ret by china players was very low : 0.86 %just answer my question : if lower ranked player can go to WC while higher ranked player can't go just bcoz the quota / country, then where is the fair ? if saina nehwal can not go to WC just bcoz she represent china and only world # 15, while world # 150 from XYZ country can go, is this fair ?first, the #12 player represent which country ? Second, where is the final ranking prior to 2012 OG so I can know which country suffers the most in table tennisAs long as I know, LXR qualify by the regulation, while INA WS qualify by wild card

Please don't drag Saina Nehwal here for the sake of your explaination. She will never be going to represent China nor she is in the world # 15 rank at present. So, please don't drag other country's players for the sake of explaining the act of withdrawals and retirements from china players.

Your explainations are totally wrong. Its like " I will do whatever i can. You don't have any rights to stop me doing that. We are superpowers" Isn't it?

[Fortune]

Please don't drag Saina Nehwal here for the sake of your explaination. She will never be going to represent China nor she is in the world # 15 rank at present. So, please don't drag other country's players for the sake of explaining the act of withdrawals and retirements from china players. Your explainations are totally wrong. Its like " I will do whatever i can. You don't have any rights to stop me doing that. We are superpowers" Isn't it?

I use saina nehwal bcoz depleter comes from india, and very likely he/she idolize nehwal. Let see what is the fans reaction if their idol can not go to WC just bcoz country limitation, and let see if they have different answer, if the victim is not the same. How about you ? Just answer my question : if saina nehwal from china and only # 15 can not go, is this fair ?

[scorpion1]

I use saina nehwal bcoz depleter comes from india, and very likely he/she idolize nehwal. Let see what is their reaction if their idol can not go to WC just bcoz country limitation, and let see if they have different answer, if the victim is not the same. How about you ? Just answer my question : if saina nehwal from china and only # 15 can not go, is this fair ?

You are completely want to change the topic out from here by simply dragging everybody by calling their idols name and fitting those as if you needs. This thread is completely based upon some players' cheating on badminton for the past years. We people are very much interested in badminton and we never accept those malpractices ever happen to badminton. Thats the beauty of this thread which wanted to eradicate the malpractice in general. Do you keep on insist that these practices are good to badminton for ever???

[Fortune]

Facts already proved that when the regulation is quite fair, only 1 ret or w/o within 116 matches...so if BWF wants to reduce the # of w/o or ret when chn vs chn, simple, set again the 2001 WC regulation. It's silly that member (ROW fans) in here only criticize china and not criticize BWF. That's bcoz their idol is very hard to win major title even though china suffers the most by BWF's unfair regulation

[Cheung]

The topic has become unnecessarily wildly speculative. Back to reality please.

[scorpion1]

This is quite simple.. Walkovers between players and unnecessary retirements won't help badminton in any case. So, for the well being of the sport and to protect its sovereignity , i request BWF to come up with some solutions to curb those who misuse the regulations. Already, BWF has eradicated the wrong line judgements in some countries by trying to introduce sophisticated cameras to look after the line calls . I appreciate their work and i also insist BWF to come forward with an excellent back-up plan to eradicate intentional walkovers as well.

[limsy]

Btw, Limsy, did you do the record for 2012? Do you mind to repost as it has gotten lost in the clutter.
Scorpion, why dont you do one for Saina for the year 2011 and 2012, same country and different country add up together also I think would not be many We dont argue with other arguements, just put up the stats.

i have done that and posted. the post was been ignored because plenty of outer space reply.
now i am unmotivated because the thread is on the border of get locked.

Why so? This thread has been going on topic and very well updated until some errant weed barged in and wreaked havoc.
Will you leave your house if it's haunted? Simply perform some "exorcism" to clean away "evil spirits", that's all you have to do.

yup,i think i will abandon this thread since the bwf is co cruel and forcing cba todo dirty tricks!
ouch,better bwf cancel all international tournament,woohoo!

The topic has become unnecessarily wildly speculative. Back to reality please.

mod can consider to lock it then i will open a new thread for the current year walkover and retired.
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