Warning!! Fake Yonex Seller in California!!

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  1. bluejeff

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    Hi, people, I would like to warn you if you are buying yonex racquets, (MP-77, MP-88, and MP-100 only), there is a big fake yonex seller in California.
    This dude has sold many people many racquets........and the thing is you can not return the racquet to him.

    He always claims that his racquets are real..........and once you return the racquet to him, he would all the sudden claim that you have returned a fake racquet to him in order to gain the refund, DUH!! Therefore, he will not give you the refund nor the racquet you return to him!!!
    (this is not my case, this is the other buyer's case)

    The thing is his racquets are so fake!! even the logo isn't right......and the length of the racquet isn't right........no mp bump........no engraved serial number......and many more...................

    That's really smart crime though!! because if you return the evidence to the criminals, they will destroy the evidence and then you have nothing to back you up!!

    I am not going to say the name of him, but people should watch out for that.
    I am also on my process of contacing Yonex,Inc, and corrresponding companies.

    Anyone who wants to see high quality of Fake Yonex MP-77 pictures should contact me. Since I have a Sony F707 with full accessories, I can take good pictures for sure.

    The way I think this thread should belong to the market forum is because this is a sell/buy topic, but if I am wrong, Kwun, please forgive me and move this thread to the right place, thanks.
     
  2. kwun

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    bluejeff,

    sorry to hear that. love to see the pics of the fake racket. does it have a CH prefix by any chance?

    i understand that you may not want to reveal the name of the seller, how about let us know if the seller sells through his own website or through ebay, etc?
     
  3. Winex West Can

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    That's not going help us and actually includes all sellers in California. Can you be a little bit more specific (e.g. he sells on eBay or he has an online store or he is located in XXXX, etc)?

    Actually I would suggest that you post pics of the fake racquet so that other posters know what to look for.
     
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    the guy from ebay right? i thought his racquet were fake but werent sure. I almost buy from him also cus the auction ends pretty cheap. the only reason i didnt buy from him because he didnt provide acurate detail about his racquet. In his description for MP88, it said 2UG4, and there isnt a Yonex MP88 2U.

    Lucky i had doubt about him. I'll just spill his ID....************

    since you said he's scamming people, why not just say it so people will be aware
     
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    you got the name right:)
     
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    I will post the pictures later........it's kind of late now.......(3:30AM)
    but here are the partial details I sent to Yonex USA, Inc. descirbing the condition:

    Note: I bought the MP-77 (2U)

    1. it's much shorter than my other yonex long racquet, but all MP-77 racquets are should be long and they should be the same length
    2. the grip is thin and plastic, not the same feel as other Yonex racquets
    3. it doesn't have the musclepower frame/bump on it
    4. the color of the racquet cover(silver instead of gold letters of muscle power) isn't right and the material is different, it's cheap plastic again.
    5. "CH" mark on the "shaft"; it should only appear on the handle in the serial part, not on shaft.
    6. the logo of Yonex is different from my other racquet, it's copied logo with twisted lines/edges printed.
    7. the cone of the handle is not straight, it's twisted.
    8. the weight of this racquet is lighter than my 4U racquet, which is definetely a fake! (2U should always be heavier than 4U)
    9. the serial number on the handle is printed, not engraved.
     
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    OK here are all the pics, I just can't sleep without this!!:mad: :mad:
    Picture1:
    Look at how bad the quality is on the carrying case
     

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    Picture2:
    The top is my MP-88's true carrying case
    The bottom one is the fake case with silver color only on lettering.
     

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    Picture3:
    see how bad is the packaging of the handle
    It's a loose plastic bag instead of a nice shink-wrap.
     

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    Picture4:
    See the "CH" on the shaft?
    that's fake!!
    Also, notice the yonex logo on the handle, the two triangles are too far from the circles!!!
    :mad: :mad:
     

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    Picture5:
    See the "CH" logo printed on the handle? that's fake!!!
    It shouldn't be there.
     

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    Picture6:
    The serial number is nicely "printed" on the shaft, it's NOT ENGRAVED!!!
    Fake!!
    (Plus it's shinning glossory):mad:
     

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    Picture7:
    top is my MP-88 with the Muscle Power String Bump
    the bottom is the fake MP-77 without the String Bump
    Fake!
     

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    Picture8:
    Left: my MP-88
    Right: fake MP-77 with fuzzy Yonex logo
     

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    Picture9:
    see how sharp it is on the connection of the shaft and the handle?
    It can actually cut my hand!!:mad: :mad:
     

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    Picture10:
    It's much shorter than my MP-88!!
    MP-77 should be the same length as MP-88!!

    Top: Fake Yonex MP-77
    Bottom: my MP-88
     

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    All right, that was quite a ride, now I can sleep well. :)

    ToKwun:
    Please let me know if you want more pictures from any angle you desire.

    To People:
    I make the pictures to be small size just to save the bandwidth for kwun, but if you want pictures in 2560x1920 in Tiff mode, let me know and I will send them to you
    (if you really want 15mb/pic)

    I did those pictures on my pink bed with my pillows, hope that's all right.

    :eek: zzzZZZZ..........
     
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    Of course it uses a different material.. it uses "TATANIUM" instead of "TITANIUM"--there's the problem! :p
     
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    If you bought the racquet using eBay, you should inform eBay that there is a criminal operating on their site. You may end up getting a refund or some payment through their Fraud Protection Program.

    You said that you were contacting Yonex and others, but didn't specifically mention eBay.

    regards,.
    Neil
     
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    In fact, I have contacted Paypal, Ebay, and Yonex USA, but the seller insisted that he is selling realy Yonex Racquets, and Ebay & Paypal people don't know Yonex Racquets that well.:mad:

    Another thing is, the fraud program on Ebay cost $20, and you will not also get the shipping cost$15, so I will lose $35 if I use that program.

    I'd rather dispute the credit via Citibank though:)
     

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