Li Xuerui ( 李雪芮 )

**Qidong** · 06-18-2012, 11:07 AM

It's good for LXR to lose to SN. If LXR didn't face SN in IO, the Chinese coaches may not know her weakness, it will be too late in London. There are still 2 months before going to London. If LXR is able to handle the shots to her body better and controls her nerve in London, she will be way more dangerous. I still think LXR will be the best bet in London.

***cobalt*** · 06-18-2012, 12:25 PM

It's probably the very first time that LXR lost a game after holding 2 game/match points!
Nerves? Definitely!!
But something else was also happening in Game 2 and 3 to LXR, and it appeared that she did not have the physical edge in game 3 that she normally has shown until now. Again, I think it was a combination of 2 things:

** Nerves/adrenaline stemming from the atmosphere in Istora. A player can find it difficult to think and apply tactics, and is often reduced to reactive play. This hapened to LXR on a few occasions, and her wrist kept dropping from stress.

** Missing the undeniably calming and guiding influence and clarity of ZN! This IMO, is the biggie! LXR will have to find her own way out of the dependancy tangle that she, WYH and WSX have gotten themselves into! The other 2 players, WX and WL are much less affected by this, IMO, because of their mental/psychological makeup...

**pcll99** · 06-18-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by cobalt

It's probably the very first time that LXR lost a game after holding 2 game/match points!
Nerves? Definitely!!
But something else was also happening in Game 2 and 3 to LXR, and it appeared that she did not have the physical edge in game 3 that she normally has shown until now. Again, I think it was a combination of 2 things:

** Nerves/adrenaline stemming from the atmosphere in Istora. A player can find it difficult to think and apply tactics, and is often reduced to reactive play. This hapened to LXR on a few occasions, and her wrist kept dropping from stress.

** Missing the undeniably calming and guiding influence and clarity of ZN! This IMO, is the biggie! LXR will have to find her own way out of the dependancy tangle that she, WYH and WSX have gotten themselves into! The other 2 players, WX and WL are much less affected by this, IMO, because of their mental/psychological makeup...

yeah, agree with everything u said.

LXR seemed so casual, nonchalant or indifferent throughout, even at the end of Game 2. It was very strange.

**pcll99** · 06-18-2012, 01:14 PM

It seems the decision as to which three of the four WS will go to London will be decided within a few days.

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120618/001085.htm

**vixter** · 06-18-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by pcll99

yeah, agree with everything u said.

LXR seemed so casual, nonchalant or indifferent throughout, even at the end of Game 2. It was very strange.

I was also surprised by this casualness throughout the whole of game 2, and I don't actually think she was nervous. She was one set away from the title but it was like she was never interested of taking charge in the set. And her match points went by so quickly. But some people has pointed out she looked really tired so maybe it was fatigue.

But also, she had won 4 titles in a row and was about to win her 5th. Maybe she was getting too comfortable and cocky. It might be good for her to have this loss now, and she will get some hunger back again.

***kwun*** · 06-18-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by vixter

I was also surprised by this casualness throughout the whole of game 2, and I don't actually think she was nervous. She was one set away from the title but it was like she was never interested of taking charge in the set. And her match points went by so quickly. But some people has pointed out she looked really tired so maybe it was fatigue.

But also, she had won 4 titles in a row and was about to win her 5th. Maybe she was getting too comfortable and cocky. It might be good for her to have this loss now, and she will get some hunger back again.

i too agree that it seems like she was struggling with stamina during the match.

but good thing is that stamina can be corrected with hardwork. when it comes to techniques and physique, not so easy.

**laonong** · 06-18-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by kwun

i too agree that it seems like she was struggling with stamina during the match.

but good thing is that stamina can be corrected with hardwork. when it comes to techniques and physique, not so easy.

WYH will go for sure. LXR will go almost for sure.
I guess is WX>WSX because WX can beat Tine.

***cobalt*** · 06-18-2012, 08:39 PM

My feeling is, LXR has the stamina. She has played a lot of 3-game matches, and an almost trademark feature for her is that she appears to get stronger in the third game as most others tend to lose a little steam.

But if your glands are spontaneously reacting to an overload of external stimulii like you would expect at the Istora on finals day, your body can do funny things. (I think the same thing happened as well to DPY in the MS finals. His expressions and eyes told the story.) The good thing is, the human body carries memory of experiences and reactions, so she will not make the same mistake twice.

**ctjcad** · 06-19-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Qidong

...There are still 2 months before going to London. .

..actually just over a month (5 weeks or so) left..

**ikcud** · 06-19-2012, 12:48 AM

I hope LXR makes it to the olympic games. She's been tearing it up lately. I think she would of had the ok auto if she won this one. But I don't know now...

**rogerv2** · 06-19-2012, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by ikcud

I hope LXR makes it to the olympic games. She's been tearing it up lately. I think she would of had the ok auto if she won this one. But I don't know now...

Well only WYH has consistently defeated Saina, so she definitely will be in, so will LXR.
My bet is WSX will be dropped.

**Justin L** · 06-19-2012, 05:25 AM

No,LXR must not develop a crutch mentality and has to wean off her dependence on her coach. She has to become a self-analytical player and acquire through experience the ability to cope with all sorts of situations and playing environment. It's early days yet in her blossoming career.

Losing that match against Saina which she should have won by her superior skills was a minor setback but,most importantly, a valuable unforgettable lesson that will further strengthen,enrich and enhance her knowledge, experience, and inner belief. This rising phoenix will soar even higher and spread her wings wide to cover a reasonably long and illustrious career. Resolve and willpower shall get her there.

**repentedboy** · 06-19-2012, 05:39 AM

The way Li Yongbo delayed the selection and finalisation of the WS dept reflects so much of internal disputes and conflicts which show China is not confident of winning the gold now in WS..

Bad times for China. I hope Wang Yihan doesn't fall prey to any dark horse and Li Xuerui gets a decent draw to meet Wang Yihan in the semifinal.

Wang Xin is far too unstable....Maybe we were too concerned and expected too much from her but hey Wang Xin never does well in Indonesia particularly. Wang Shixian ...i am speechless. But then again, I feel she would suddenly burst into flames of confidence and rejuvenation if she suddenly got a surprise call to play in London. We could see the same Wang Shixian playing in the Asian Games.

Chinese players tend to do alright in Europe especially England btw.

**pcll99** · 06-19-2012, 06:00 AM

I don't think there is any need to read too much into the lost by LXR (or WYH) in this year Indonesian Open.

Since this year's IO doesn't count (as a OLY qualification), most players' primary objective is to avoid injury or fatigue. Winning is secondary.

**repentedboy** · 06-19-2012, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by pcll99

I don't think there is any need to read too much into the lost by LXR (or WYH) in this year Indonesian Open.

Since this year's IO doesn't count (as a OLY qualification), most players' primary objective is to avoid injury or fatigue. Winning is secondary.

Wang Yihan is China's final trump card/resolution. The other chinese players are there to support her as it now stands.

Wang Yihan vs Li Xuerui in the semifinal (Li Xuerui to give walkover to Wang Yihan to play in the gold medal match)

Wang Xin/Wang Shixian ( still undecided ) ; Their task in the other half is harder but their job is at least to go as far as they could.

Wang Xin cannot cope as a top seeded player..I fear she would bump into Bae Younjoo/Sung Jihyun/ Schenk/ Tai Tzu Ying and get knocked out early. Wang Shixian could deal with Korean players and Tai Tzu Ying ....

**Justin L** · 06-19-2012, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by pcll99

I don't think there is any need to read too much into the lost by LXR (or WYH) in this year Indonesian Open.

Since this year's IO doesn't count (as a OLY qualification), most players' primary objective is to avoid injury or fatigue. Winning is secondary.

Thanks for the reminder. You made a point which I've been saying throughout the tournament but have now forgotten about it. It also more or less explains some unusual early exits and non-appearance, such as Cai/Fu, Chen Jin,Chen Long,Sho Sasaki,Lee Hyun Il,Shon Wan Ho..., and maybe that's why coaches ZN and XXZ weren't there.

**pcll99** · 06-19-2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by repentedgirl

Wang Yihan is China's final trump card/resolution. The other chinese players are there to support her as it now stands.

Wang Yihan vs Li Xuerui in the semifinal (Li Xuerui to give walkover to Wang Yihan to play in the gold medal match)

Wang Xin/Wang Shixian ( still undecided ) ; Their task in the other half is harder but their job is at least to go as far as they could.

Wang Xin cannot cope as a top seeded player..I fear she would bump into Bae Younjoo/Sung Jihyun/ Schenk/ Tai Tzu Ying and get knocked out early. Wang Shixian could deal with Korean players and Tai Tzu Ying ....

Wang Xin is the most dependable/reliable WS player in recent history. She has never failed to deliver when it matters the most. As you know, there is no early elimination round in OLY2012.

Glad you have repented.