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11-27-2011, 10:15 AM #1
home court advantage
In the semifinal match of China open at Shanghai, China, between Lin Dan and Lee CW, 1st game, when LD lead 19-17. Suddenly, all audience chanted "Lee Chong Wei, Jia You", it's so dominant in the stadium supporing LCW instead of LD, and booing LD. This made LD somewhat upset. He said after, that at that moment, he was suddenly reminded that the same atmosphere when he played in Malaysia and Indonesia. LD confused, when he played in Malaysia and Indonesia, he had to face all kinds of adversities and mistreatment made by local Malaysians and Indonesians. He never heard anyone there cheering for him at all. All he got in Malaysia and Indonesia were the troubles, adversities, mistreatments made by local people and audiences. How come he received the same when he playing at his own country.
Affected by that disturbance, LD lost 4 points in a row, from leading 19-17, to losing the 1st game 19-21.
Audiences support players for all kinds of reasons. Not all Chinese people support Chinese badminton players. When you choose the best 4 players, they should select the real best 4: that's LCW, LD, CL and CJ. But they didn't, they choose LD, LCW, PG and TH. Chinese obviously not select players based on their own nationality, instead they choose against their own nationality.
No wonder Lin Dan said after the China open that he prefer playing in Japan better than in Shanghai China because he got more fair treatment in Japan.
When I watched tennis matches before in the US, they were American citizen Michael Chang against European players, it's dominant in the audience support European players, not their own country man Michael Chang. But when Michael Chang played in Japan, almost all the audience in Japan all-hearted supporting Michael Chang no matter whom he played against.
It seems that all people in Malaysia and Indonesia are patriots and nationalists. All the audience inside the whole stadium are crazy about their local players, and at the same time, making all troubles possible to other players. This is just the on court observation, I know, there are lots of people in Malaysia and Indonesia who support other players from ohter countries, but their voices cannot be heard inside the stadium.
Any observations for European audience towards European players? I don't know much about that, Thanks for your comments if you have any.
11-27-2011, 10:36 AM #2
the only thing i can say is
there is a lotSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS of lin dan fans in malaysia(include my ex gf)
dont made any conclusion since u didnt saw and heard with ur own eyes
11-27-2011, 10:41 AM #3
LCW is one of the few spared,that's mainly cos he wins the most titles among the current Msian players.
Last edited by eaglehelang; 11-27-2011 at 10:46 AM.
11-27-2011, 10:59 AM #4
It makes no sense
you talked about LD didn't get home ground advantage, and then you try to attack Malaysian and Indonesian fans
one real question for you, are you trolling right now?
11-27-2011, 12:37 PM #5
The fans were just trying to prevent a total collapse of LCW to get their money worth. They over did it.
If this were the Olympics, I think even the Shanghai fans would rather see a total domination of LD over LCW than a tight match.
11-27-2011, 01:15 PM #6
Thanks everyone for your valuable inputs. Please note it's not my intention to conclude where the fans are better. Actually according to LD, Chinese fans are NOT as good as other fans in supporting locals. It's just different style of fans, how did you drew your conclusion some were better others. My friends, the world is not just good and bad, black or white. The world is full color, they are all good. Actually, like beauty is in the eye of beholder, if you want to find out, all the people are good people. For those who always claim others bad, I would say you are too lazy to find the goodness of others.
Thanks again everyone for your commenting no matter what kind of argyle you have, your reply always valuable to me
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11-27-2011, 01:20 PM #7
Since I use swype to type and post from my cell phone, there were many typos in all my previous posts, sorry about that
11-27-2011, 03:19 PM #8
Well, if that did throw him off, it only gave LD more motivation to pound LCW in the second and third set which he did... I do agree with the previous poster about the crowd probably wanting their money's worth and don't want LD to sweep LCW aside and overdid it...
11-27-2011, 04:30 PM #9
2 cents is the troll.......in Indonesia open...there is no boos for Lin Dan....but more on Malaysia players....2 cents, I hope this is the last time you attack any INA fans or players and you declare you are neutral and not die hard CHN fans..Moderators....please kindly ask 2 cents not to post any negatives ....
Last edited by huangkwokhau; 11-27-2011 at 04:32 PM.
11-27-2011, 05:29 PM #10
11-27-2011, 07:13 PM #11
First of all, I understand fans, but players don't have any obligation to win for the fans. some fans can't fulfill their own dreams, so they depend on players to fulfill their fantasy. So they became angry easily once players delivered under their expectation.
Second, who surfers the most from the loss? Fans? Of course not, it's the player himself. But all players don't want to show their weak side, so when they lose, they want to hide their sadness, they want to show they don't care, our they didn't play seriously. That's all fans see and get angry about.
Wang YH lost the first game, and trailing far behind in the second, so she just made several suicide shots to put the end of the match. After the match, she behaved like she didn't care. But after she returned back to her own dorm alone, she cried seven days for the loss.
As fans, we should ask often, what I can do for the players I like, Please don't ask what the players can do for you.
11-27-2011, 07:27 PM #12
11-27-2011, 07:38 PM #13
When you see too many CHN vs CHN matches in one tournament/one day, you will be starting to looking forward to see some tight matches.
Fans from other countries do not do that because they have no many players of their countries' survive in the later stages of tournaments.
11-27-2011, 08:26 PM #14
LCW supporters are common in China. Normally LD won't care. But for that match it seems some spector tried to interfere with or maybe insult him, which caused him upset.
You have to know it's common sense that some Chinese people just hate Chinese people - they hate people only because they are Chinese, no matter what they do, and they hate themselves to be Chinese. And of course we have just enough LD haters here in China.
Last edited by lucida; 11-27-2011 at 08:35 PM.
11-27-2011, 09:57 PM #15
11-27-2011, 10:02 PM #16
11-27-2011, 10:40 PM #17
Since you said SOME, it's hard to argue, jealousy lives everywhere esp. among the losers furthermore *some* is qualitative, very loose, technically it can't be wronged to name any quantity more than two as some.
(2) "they hate people only because they are Chinese, no matter what they do"
this is the very 1st time i ever read such tendentious remark! You alleged that some Chinese people hate their fellow countrymen just because they are Chinese! Amazing to learn!
(3) Oops! A very BOLD statement of yours "and they hate themselves to be Chinese"
so what these so-called self-haters wanna be? a non-yellow? becoming Swiss people??? Or Icelanders? please tell us
(4) "And of course we have just enough LD haters here in China."
may you pls tell us why these many ("just enough") Chinese people hate their own motherland's shiniest badminton star?
Since your location indicates Shanghai, China, it seems to give you 'more weight' in your bold remarks here.
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