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Thread: Past vs Present...
12-09-2009, 03:59 AM #154
Very well & fair enough..
Now, how about some other BCers', who've watched YY or ZJH play, views or thoughts or opinions??..
Last edited by ctjcad; 12-09-2009 at 04:02 AM.
12-09-2009, 07:37 AM #155
surely with the ever increasing computer power that we have it must be possible to model all the pass and present players at their best and fight it out in the virtual world once and for all. cant be the difficult really, any takers?
12-09-2009, 08:37 AM #156
Thus I would say that today's best players will run rings around ZJH. In fact, players like LD and LCW, even SDK/PSH could win by using their defence alone and keeping the rally going.
On YY, it is true that he has among the best attacks and one of the better (not the best) defences of his time. However, in terms of penetration, I would not think that he could pass through LD or LCW's tight defences, and obviously, these two guys very good reaction speed for him to outmaneuver, even with his superior deception. His smashes are steep and the angles are difficult to return, but in terms of outright power, I would say that his predecessors Han Jian and Luan Jin are more powerful.
Cooler is mostly right that most players of the previous era do more leapsmashing rather than full body jumpsmash. However, the more powerful ones, eg. Liem Swie King, Han Jian and Luan Jin really blasted full body smashes.
However, I must say that deception is better among the players of the previous era than the current batch, maybe because the emphasis to outmaneuver your opponent then is less dependent on power and speed. There seems to be less deception now. If two players of these different eras were to go head to head, I do not think deception of the previous era alone has what it takes to negate the power and speed combo of the current players.
Last edited by abedeng; 12-09-2009 at 08:39 AM.
12-09-2009, 09:04 AM #157
wow, so many 'useful' badminton information for me to see here
12-09-2009, 12:01 PM #158
see? LD use deception too, when he feel he is steps ahead of KJ
ask wong CH, why he didn't use deception on LD to get out a bad situation? LOL
Last edited by cooler; 12-09-2009 at 12:06 PM.
12-09-2009, 12:10 PM #159
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12-09-2009, 12:18 PM #161
12-09-2009, 01:04 PM #162
In general, most of them told me it's really hard to compare and judge. That's why the comparison was simply based on physical abilities and techniques and a bit on the mental aspect.
Thank you, abedeng, for sharing your input. Finally, what i've been somewhat waiting to read.
How about equipments (racket) used during that time and now? Would it make a difference? How about the scoring system used?
12-09-2009, 01:56 PM #163
12-09-2009, 01:58 PM #164
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12-10-2009, 01:17 AM #165
12-10-2009, 01:26 AM #166
WCH felt for Lin Dan's hold and flick, frontcourt deception.
Last edited by Badmintan; 12-10-2009 at 01:29 AM.
12-10-2009, 07:49 AM #167
I really do not think modern equipment will help the older generation of players to upstage the new generation based on their skills alone. This equipment and playing style adopted by the specific generation of players, they go hand in hand. YY, ZJH, Frost and the like would have been trained to maximize what they had then. Even if given newer equipment, their training will not allow them to maximize the potential.
The explosive style of LD, LCW is often assisted by better equipment (shoes, racquets, super high tension stringing). With the current emphasis on power, elevation, speed, it really makes no sense for players to play rally style ala Prakash Padukone, Frost, or being defensive minded like Ardy, Foo Kok Keong. It is all about pummelling your opponent into submission from the word go.
As for scoring system, it would not modify the results at all, 'cos practically all the current batch of players are very fit. Whereas in the previous era, you could see differences between superfit guys (Ardy, Foo Kok Keong, Xiong Guobao), fit (Han Jian, Yang Yang, Frost, Padukone, Liem Swie King, Rashid Sidek) and not so fit (Misbun Sidek, Luan Jin, Zhao Jianhua).
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