Victor SH9000ACE

**visor** · 12-05-2012, 01:31 AM

@ Borbor: Don't throw those non slip insoles away... sell em to me. I love em. Well... at least wait till I get to try them first hopefully by end of the week.

**Licin** · 12-05-2012, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by visor

@ Borbor: Don't throw those non slip insoles away... sell em to me. I love em. Well... at least wait till I get to try them first hopefully by end of the week.

Please let us know your findings.

**Wingu** · 12-07-2012, 08:47 AM

Going to Japan next week. Hoping to buy these and that they will fit my feet

**visor** · 12-08-2012, 01:18 AM

Initial impressions after 2 hours of play:

Coming from the SC5EX, a few things immediately noted.

1. This shoe sits very low, much like a plain canvas shoe with a thin rubber sole. I almost feel like I'm a quarter inch closer to the ground. However cushioning is not compromised. Being lower also has the advantage of faster response, easily noticeable in the split step.

2. This shoe is very comfortable, even on the first use. I'm surprised it didn't require any break in time at all.

3. This shoe is wide enough for my 3E wide feet with bunions. Same width and fit as my previous SC5EX.

4. Some people don't like the wavy anti slip surface of the insoles, but I love them. Prevents any sliding inside the shoe, even if you didn't tie it tight and snug.

5. One quibble though: Part of the heel rubber (the white part) is a tad too hard and not grippy enough. Good for sole longevity I suppose, but not good when I slipped for the first time ever when landing the heel while lunging to retrieve a shot. Never had this happen with my other Yonex shoes before.

**Wingu** · 12-08-2012, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by visor

5. One quibble though: Part of the heel rubber (the white part) is a tad too hard and not grippy enough. Good for sole longevity I suppose, but not good when I slipped for the first time ever when landing the heel while lunging to retrieve a shot. Never had this happen with my other Yonex shoes before.

Isn't the rubber there the same as the rest of it, just colored white?
Sounds worrying if the quality would be different...

**visor** · 12-08-2012, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Wingu

Isn't the rubber there the same as the rest of it, just colored white?
Sounds worrying if the quality would be different...

no, its actually harder and less grippy as a result... supposed to be more resistant to wear, but if you look at pictures of the bottom sole, i think there's too much of the white material there and not enough of the natural colour rubber.

I'm hoping that it was just a freak accident that I had that I had put most of my weight while lunging and landing on the white part , but I've never had this problem before with my previous SHB200 and SC5EX.

**Wingu** · 12-08-2012, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by visor

no, its actually harder and less grippy as a result... supposed to be more resistant to wear, but if you look at pictures of the bottom sole, i think there's too much of the white material there and not enough of the natural colour rubber.

That is true though, a lot of white...
I'm curious, is the white part on the heel going inwards? Or is it all flat? Looking at pictures, it seems like it's sort of like going inwards.

**Borbor** · 12-09-2012, 06:43 PM

no clue why they put that white part on the heel. That design element is absolutely retarded. ALMOST had a big one today.

**visor** · 12-09-2012, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Borbor

no clue why they put that white part on the heel. That design element is absolutely retarded. ALMOST had a big one today.

I hope that part gets softer and grippier with break in and use... when I slipped, it left a long 1 ft white streak mark on the mat floor. I'm going to practice a couple lunges before i play next time to see if its something I need to be cautious about.

**Borbor** · 12-09-2012, 09:37 PM

i haven't used the shoe on mat yet. It was on wood today, and I wipe the shoe (wet towel) every other point.

Thurs I'll try it out on a mat and see.

**Wingu** · 12-10-2012, 12:46 AM

That does indeed soun dworrying. The place where my club practice has wooden floor.
Does everyone have the same problem with this shoe?

**!¿Clue?!** · 12-10-2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Wingu

That does indeed sound worrying. The place where my club practice has wooden floor.Does everyone have the same problem with this shoe?

Our varsity team practices on hardwood floors and I can personally report with the SH9000ACE that I don't notice any marks/streaks on the court.

**Borbor** · 12-10-2012, 11:45 PM

no, it doesn't leave marks; but that white rubber DOES behave different, there's no question to that one. It'd be a fluke to land heel first on it MOST of the time, but when you do land on it, it does behave different.

**visor** · 12-11-2012, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by !¿Clue?!

Our varsity team practices on hardwood floors and I can personally report with the SH9000ACE that I don't notice any marks/streaks on the court.

Streaks on the floor is not the main problem... the main problem is that the white rubber material is harder and hence less grippy.

Borrowing dingboy's photo from page 2 of this thread, we can see that the white makes up a considerably large surface area of the heel. This is where the heel strikes the ground first during a lunge. I had a look at the other higher end Victor and Yonex shoes and none of them has this harder material on the heel. I just hope that with a little break in time, the white part will get a tad softer and more grippy