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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    I'm suspicious of this data. Granted I don't know exactly what they are measuring but, if these 414 and 415 speeds are the shuttle speed as its left the racquet then I'm not sure the physics allows for a much faster (36%!! more) velocity at the 'end' (technically the end speed for both should be zero). Either the initial velocity is a faulty measurement (the racquet head is still in contact with the shuttle at the point of initial measurement. Or, the shuttle has been deformed by the VT-ZF.

    So maybe what they've invented is a shuttle destruction machine that will tear through cheap shuttles at a rate of 2 dozen a game. If so I'm buying one, it will be great with possibly forcing the people I play with to stop using those crappy shuttles.

    By the way, the marketing campaign is stupid. And, if the 19kg really refers to what the frame can withstand before deforming then only way I can really respond is with a giant YAWN and a 'who gives a siht'.
    I agree with the point about the terminal velocity - technically, there is no way the racket has any influence over it. The strings are, just like with any other racket, an even surface and should not deform the shuttle in any other fashion (which would be the only possible reason for different speeds, other than testing them in completely different arenas, which -now that I think about it- sounds exactly like a Yonex marketing scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder.tw View Post
    You're wrong. Your point is based on a nonrepresentative sample... us. We are by the fact that we are members of this forum an enthusiast community. Interest was sparked here the minute it was realized LCW was playing with something other than the VT-80. The other 90% of my club members have no idea this thing is coming out soon.
    Point taken with thanks. Yes, admittedly, I am talking about BC members in general, although there are others out there that conveys the same. Anyways, BC certainly holds a strong grip in the baddy community for sure to provide word of mouth transferal of info from enthusiast to enthusiasts undoubtedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    I agree with the point about the terminal velocity - technically, there is no way the racket has any influence over it. The strings are, just like with any other racket, an even surface and should not deform the shuttle in any other fashion (which would be the only possible reason for different speeds, other than testing them in completely different arenas, which -now that I think about it- sounds exactly like a Yonex marketing scheme.

    Looks like we are all schemed?

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    VT80 is Yen 23100
    VT-ZF is Yen 24000

    Are u ready to burn your pocket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurimaster2010 View Post
    VT80 is Yen 23100
    VT-ZF is Yen 24000

    Are u ready to burn your pocket?
    May the Z-Force be with you.
    Definitely burning my pocket for this one, since it will be a long while till i get my VT-80 back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decoy View Post
    I doubt that the chart was verified given that the vtzf wasn't colour coded and the 2012 chart is on another thread on the forum.
    Never doubt AT700.com info . They always have members going to the Yonex trade fair ... that "other" 2012 chart is a Yonex Sunrise production aka SP region chart and obviously it won't include a yet to be released model before the official launch ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Never doubt AT700.com info . They always have members going to the Yonex trade fair ... that "other" 2012 chart is a Yonex Sunrise production aka SP region chart and obviously it won't include a yet to be released model before the official launch ...
    Where upon do you dig all these stuff? Just set full throttle on google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by King's View Post
    Where upon do you dig all these stuff?
    Yes sir . But over the years you sorta already remember AT700.com is the place to look first for scoops. Too bad it is invite only ...
    Eventually stuff will leak out but I mean most of the recent news off new rackets, strings, etc. has been up on that board since December! (iirc )
    This section in particular is the place to be: http://www.at700.com/forum.php?mod=f...&fid=31&page=1
    Cab50 swingweight data and more pics up as well there (let me shamelessly copy them to the Cab50 thread in a minute)

    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    I agree with the point about the terminal velocity - technically, there is no way the racket has any influence over it. The strings are, just like with any other racket, an even surface and should not deform the shuttle in any other fashion (which would be the only possible reason for different speeds, other than testing them in completely different arenas, which -now that I think about it- sounds exactly like a Yonex marketing scheme.
    I assume it is a further development of this: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/93682-Yonex-Nanopreme-material?p=1623418#post1623418
    Last edited by demolidor; 01-28-2012 at 11:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Yes sir . But over the years you sorta already remember AT700.com is the place to look first for scoops. Too bad it is invite only ...
    Eventually stuff will leak out but I mean most of the recent news off new rackets, strings, etc. has been up on that board since December!
    ...you mean like FedererFan07 wherein they get to know which racquet the Swiss will be wileding before it is even in sneak peaks?

    How do I get an invite from AT700.com, by doing push ups and jack squats?
    Last edited by King's; 01-28-2012 at 11:49 AM.

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    Hehe, I assume they have members that are store owners or higher up the chain and thus get invited to the annual(?) trade fair. I'm not a member there either and stuck feeding of the crumbs that are public (doesn't look like anyone here is a member and if they were they wouldn't be allowed to post it elsewhere anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurimaster2010 View Post
    VT80 is Yen 23100
    VT-ZF is Yen 24000

    Are u ready to burn your pocket?
    I don't have pockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew tze en View Post
    I don't have pockets
    bro,
    bcoz u ve a blank cheque that y never need a pocket

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    There's some chatter in the ether about NBG99 0.69mm being introduced...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    There's some chatter in the ether about NBG99 0.69mm being introduced...
    Chatter from Cray Research, the super computer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    There's some chatter in the ether about NBG99 0.69mm being introduced...
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...7227-nanogy-99

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    36% increase in swing speed over vt80? In essence, by applying the same force generated from my arm, I should see a drastic increase in the velocity of smashes. Somehow, I doubt that, be it linear or not in terms of swing speed to the velocity of the shuttle, its really hard to believe such a far fetched improvement has been made. If it was really the case, every pro badminton player that is worth their salt should be using this racquet.

    Regardless, i will probably get one myself haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gelee View Post
    36% increase in swing speed over vt80? In essence, by applying the same force generated from my arm, I should see a drastic increase in the velocity of smashes. Somehow, I doubt that, be it linear or not in terms of swing speed to the velocity of the shuttle, its really hard to believe such a far fetched improvement has been made. If it was really the case, every pro badminton player that is worth their salt should be using this racquet.

    Regardless, i will probably get one myself haha.
    You are the perfect consumer. If you were an Inuit, you'd buy Yonex ice.

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