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    Well, i fixed that by going Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txv611 View Post
    More head heavy and stiffer than vt80? Hmmm I dun think it is going to be The racket for lesser skilled players like most of here. Sounds that it not going to be kind to our arms
    I don't considered myself very skilled but I'm physically strong :P So I had no issues playing the the VT-ZF... Minus the strings got loose on me already!!!

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    I finally had some time with with VT-ZF. Tested alongside N90II and VT80.

    The VTZF can really push the shuttle much faster - attacking clears are quite potent!!
    Compared with the N90II the VTZF does not feel it loses any power while manueverability almost as good as the VT80. I'm going to play around with the balance point by adding a bit more weight to the handle to see if that improves overall feel of the racket (your mileage will vary here).

    Stick smashes are extra deadly - who needs full wind up anymore?? Just jump and reach as high as possible and wrist snap

    On the other hand... the new shaft seems to have more flex & delay and I think the timing of the takes some time to get used to. Will have to adjust to this and hopefully tweaking the balance point will help as well.

    Placement, net play, fine control and blocking shots is much much improved from the z-slash. It did not take too long or too much effort to get it to an acceptable level unlike the z-slash (damn hard to get good at accurate defensive returns).

    For people who don't like head heavy & stiff rackets or just don't like the VT80 - you ARE going to hate this. For most people (including me) I would go easy when first trying this racket as this racket can be swung very fast together with the head heaviness can easily pull some tendons on your wrist... go slow.

    On the other hand, for people who loved AT700 - sorry people just get over it. The AT700 is history this racket feels nothing like the AT700. This thing hits just as solidly as an AT700 but is much much faster.

    Will report again after session #2 (after tweaking the b/p and more practice time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty View Post
    Please give a review when you have a chance. I have a 3UG5 VT80 w/ BG66UM @ 27lbs (same setup). It'd be nice to hear your comparison of the VT-ZF to the VT80.
    Finally got some practice time with the VTZF. This is definitely more head heavy and stiffer than the VT80. You will notice that offensive clears can be much faster. Smashing on the other hand take more time to get used to - feel that I can get much more out of it especially when I see my clears speed up so much. Suspect this has something to do with the thinner shaft (shaft flex lag) and/or different b/p. Backhand may suffer a little bit but it might be the b/p again.

    Brought along an N90II as well and don't feel the VTZF losses anything in terms of power but it's a much faster racket to boot.

    Stick smashing is very good - heck no need for full windup in many cases. Just jump reach high and snap that wrist!! Just be warmed up - I'm used to the VT80 stick smashing but this one you need to go slow at first....

    In terms of net play, fine control and accuracy of defensive returns - very good. Didn't take much time to get used to it. Definitely not like the z-slash which was a disaster particularly in this area.

    For players who hate stiff/head heavy rackets (i.e. VT80) - forget it - you will hate the VTZF even more.

    For players who love the AT700 and are looking for a replacement - forget it as well. The VTZF is a completely different animal. The AT700 was good but modern rackets changes the game... speed, power, quick recovery and sudden attacks - AT700 just can't give you that. Time to move on people!!

    Going to tweak my balance point a little and see if I can get this racket into the "zone". Will report back after my 2nd session (and hopefully a little more playing time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by fly swatter View Post
    Finally got some practice time with the VTZF. This is definitely more head heavy and stiffer than the VT80. You will notice that offensive clears can be much faster. Smashing on the other hand take more time to get used to - feel that I can get much more out of it especially when I see my clears speed up so much. Suspect this has something to do with the thinner shaft (shaft flex lag) and/or different b/p. Backhand may suffer a little bit but it might be the b/p again.

    Brought along an N90II as well and don't feel the VTZF losses anything in terms of power but it's a much faster racket to boot.

    Stick smashing is very good - heck no need for full windup in many cases. Just jump reach high and snap that wrist!! Just be warmed up - I'm used to the VT80 stick smashing but this one you need to go slow at first....

    In terms of net play, fine control and accuracy of defensive returns - very good. Didn't take much time to get used to it. Definitely not like the z-slash which was a disaster particularly in this area.

    For players who hate stiff/head heavy rackets (i.e. VT80) - forget it - you will hate the VTZF even more.

    For players who love the AT700 and are looking for a replacement - forget it as well. The VTZF is a completely different animal. The AT700 was good but modern rackets changes the game... speed, power, quick recovery and sudden attacks - AT700 just can't give you that. Time to move on people!!

    Going to tweak my balance point a little and see if I can get this racket into the "zone". Will report back after my 2nd session (and hopefully a little more playing time).

    ppl are saying its easy n friendly to use but seems its opposite from your feel in feedback
    try a few more time n come back to us pal
    dont come back if u not feel ok to use them
    good luck my bro

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    i have used vt z force for more than 4 nites......definitely...one of my preferred racket now..


    or maybe i am using a 4U.... thats y its easily to use..

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    Today at the Yonex All England, I got to have a few swings and looks at the racket, the rackets good but the shaft is shorter compared to the Z-Slash and the frame is slightly bigger than the Z-Slash. I tried to flex the shaft and the shaft felt stiff then extra stiff like the Nanospeed 9900 and Arcsaber 8DX

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    So for the final draw - is it N90 or the VT-ZF? oh, and WHAT IS THE VT-ZF LTD LOOKING LIKE?! :O

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    hmm.. I think vtzf so heavy.. That crushing lcw's shoulder.. Chong wei not defeated by lindan but by vtzf. Lol

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    tested today with 3U
    damn stiffer and heavier than vt80 but not much.
    its definetly has much improved in term of speed ( designed to beat speedy player like LD)
    ppl who cant handle vt80 plz stay out from vt ZF unless u buy for collection due to ego or for its paint.

    ppl who use to play with heavy head racket than ur dream has come true.
    its a near prefect heavy head racket from yonex.

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    RKEP has the Voltric Z Force (3U or 4U in G5) listed on ebay today. Going for CDN $192 + shipping.

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    Limited not much difference in performance. Only a little stiffer IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Finally, I had this racquet in my hand at All Englands. i also saw the limited edition which is due out in June - very nice although I prefer the green.

    Yes, it's heavier in the head and stiffer than VT80. Sadly I wasn't allowed to have a hit with it but will get hold of one very soon so that I can write a review.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chris0612 View Post
    hmm.. I think vtzf so heavy.. That crushing lcw's shoulder.. Chong wei not defeated by lindan but by vtzf. Lol
    yup, player like lcw get well physical trained but still got shoulder pain when using hh and stif racket. thats is the biggest yy problem that they should overcome.

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    kinda ironic that the zf is advertised with "MASSIVE HEAVY SMASH" ...
    when poor lcw wasn't able to perform such as advertised in the semi and final ae 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    kinda ironic that the zf is advertised with "MASSIVE HEAVY SMASH" ...
    when poor lcw wasn't able to perform such as advertised in the semi and final ae 2012
    Hope he can perform such as advertised on Olympic Games 2012 Final

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    at least he did a pretty decent job in the first set, especially when you see his pain between each point. all in all, the largest mistake i notice is that his clears kept going out of bounds while being quite on the conservative side on the offence and he's defence was pretty spot on.

    so you're probably gonna take note that even when you weild such a destructive weapon, you cant really use it most of the time. probably there will be a not so heavy head nor x-stiff version of the VT-ZF in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by moomoo View Post
    at least he did a pretty decent job in the first set, especially when you see his pain between each point. all in all, the largest mistake i notice is that his clears kept going out of bounds while being quite on the conservative side on the offence and he's defence was pretty spot on.

    so you're probably gonna take note that even when you weild such a destructive weapon, you cant really use it most of the time. probably there will be a not so heavy head nor x-stiff version of the VT-ZF in the near future
    Seems like Evil Empire will make a brand new line as an Arcsaber Extension which is well known for its user friendly, medium head heavy, & moderate stiffness racket.
    Armortec --> Now Showing - Voltric
    Nanospeed --> Now Showing - Nanoray
    Arcsaber --> Coming Soon

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