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    The diving puts stress on the front muscles, the injury was at the back. Typical injury when you're playing with too heavy a racket or too much, I've had problems in that area several times already. I just hope he can recover quickly and get back to training...

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    from what i saw a game between LCW and LHI...i saw LCW drive to much n maybe is the reason why his shoulder injured...if you were notice...at the second game..LCW smash was not really hard compare at the first game...i think this due to his shoulder injured and he try t slow down the phase of the game after the 11 point interval and make LHI attack more...but at the end..LCW still win the match...

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    according to the newspaper, LCW injured since the QF vs Hayom Rumbaka.. That's why he was not aggressive as usual. Very seldom smash.. but he still won. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    The diving puts stress on the front muscles, the injury was at the back. Typical injury when you're playing with too heavy a racket or too much, I've had problems in that area several times already. I just hope he can recover quickly and get back to training...
    Yeah... Agree with you.. This typical of shoulder injury usually picked up by recreational players when they did not do proper warm up & condition will be worsen by using a head heavier racket.
    However for LCW, in my opinion he just overstretched his muscle too much. Hope he recovers soon.

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    VT-ZF is my new love....although at first it didn't perform that well.

    Like a few had mentioned, it is head heavier than the VT80....during my very first game with it, I felt my bicep had been pulled a bit. I suspect this was a result from it's head heaviness. Nevertheless, I had not suffered from any pain after the game.

    Have been using the racket since last week. My VT-ZF is a 3UG5 and I strung it with Nanogy 98 (JP). What I can summarize here, in comparison with VT-80 (also 3UG5):-

    (i) The movement of VT-ZF is quite fast as compared to VT-80. I can feel lesser air resistance.

    (ii) Smashes are steeper and powerful (of course surpasses the performance of VT-80). My smash even
    get noticed by my friends.

    (iii) Control is as good as VT-80

    (iv) Defense is as good as VT-80

    (iv) The frame felt solid, there is no issue of vibration at all. I installed AC102EX over the original grip.

    In overall, I feel the VT-ZF is a better racket as compared to VT-80. If you had previously played with VT-80, you can definitely conquer the VT-ZF in no time.

    I hope this info helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurimaster2010 View Post
    2nd victim on the boat for this morning..
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...8-Singapore%29

    victim slowly piling up..
    damn the pain of 19kgf is too much to handle
    3rd victim of the week ..
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...orce-%28NEW%29

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    anyone got or played with both vt-zf and n90? comparison between those two rackets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurimaster2010 View Post
    damn the pain of 19kgf is too much to handle
    3rd victim of the week ..
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...-Z-force-(NEW)
    Gotten yours oredi ? Saw ur quote @ Antz sales for VT-ZF (JP)
    Tis looks like a good deal hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    Yeah... Agree with you.. This typical of shoulder injury usually picked up by recreational players when they did not do proper warm up & condition will be worsen by using a head heavier racket.
    However for LCW, in my opinion he just overstretched his muscle too much. Hope he recovers soon.
    I think it was before the QF because my friend was the line judge for LCW v HCV and he said that LCW wasn't playing his usual game, like his speed was slightly slower and I agree with him when I watched the game off youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew tze en View Post
    I think it was before the QF because my friend was the line judge for LCW v HCV and he said that LCW wasn't playing his usual game, like his speed was slightly slower and I agree with him when I watched the game off youtube
    Quite early for an injury in a tournament.. maybe due to wrong execution of shots... very unlikely though..

    Anyway, Thanks for the information, drew...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSoyMilk View Post
    anyone got or played with both vt-zf and n90? comparison between those two rackets?
    I'll give my 2 cents after sat. Played a little with the ZF tonight, initial reaction is that it's maneuverable and can do quite a bit of damage on drives and net kills. Smash wise, I feel that N90 might still be stronger. The ZF doesn't have that natural raw swing momentum. I'll need another session to be sure it plays better than the VT80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optiblue View Post
    I'll give my 2 cents after sat. Played a little with the ZF tonight, initial reaction is that it's maneuverable and can do quite a bit of damage on drives and net kills. Smash wise, I feel that N90 might still be stronger. The ZF doesn't have that natural raw swing momentum. I'll need another session to be sure it plays better than the VT80.
    already buy n90 last week.. dont make me regret it... hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optiblue View Post
    I'll give my 2 cents after sat. Played a little with the ZF tonight, initial reaction is that it's maneuverable and can do quite a bit of damage on drives and net kills. Smash wise, I feel that N90 might still be stronger. The ZF doesn't have that natural raw swing momentum. I'll need another session to be sure it plays better than the VT80.
    Awaiting for your Old AT700, N90 & VTZF comparison... If you don't mind though

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris0612 View Post
    already buy n90 last week.. dont make me regret it... hahaha
    My guts tell me that N90 has slightly an edge over VTZF at its raw power..You won't regret buying it.. If you regret, selling it to me, provided i have the cash..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    My guts tell me that N90 has slightly an edge over VTZF at its raw power..You won't regret buying it.. If you regret, selling it to me, provided i have the cash..
    thank you for your kindness.. i still trying to handle n90.. really different swingspeed with vt80. vt80 is fast cuts the air but n90 something like hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSoyMilk View Post
    anyone got or played with both vt-zf and n90? comparison between those two rackets?
    Expect to get the VT-ZF soon after All England Open.

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    Due to the heavier head from ZF , i am surprise for ppl out there commented that has better shot for net play. I think its a joke, how can a heavy head racket improve net play or net shot.

    As well as defend...i personally tried and i dont see its any good in defend
    in fact, degrade on the defends but improve on the attract.
    There no such perfect racket in this world but just pure imagination.

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