Badminton Etiquette after a match

**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 02:29 AM

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Badminton Etiquette after a match

I was replying in a thread about shaking hand after a match.

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

Let's talk about shaking hand after a match.

To me, I always shake hand with my opponent first;

1. At Social Games, whether I win or lose, I would say: "Thanks for the game"
2. At Competitions (after winning), I would just shake hand with a smile
3. At Competitions (after losing), I would say: "Congratulations, Well Done"
4. Then I would thank the umpire, lines judges and spectators
5. Lastly, I would pack my bag and walk away to the change room

If 1, 2 or 3 does not happen first (my opponent doesn't want to shake my hand first), I would do 4 and 5 (without waiting).

My opponent can shake my hand later (Maybe in the change room, or at the presentation ceremony).

The above post was in reply to a player celebrating with teammates first and not coming to the net to shake hand.

I thought this topic could stand as a thread of its own.

What are your thoughts?
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**pBmMalaysia** · 02-14-2011, 04:18 AM

I said once and I will say again,

that's the way it should be

It all depends on the winner really...

If he or she is full of joy after winning, jumping up and down and start celebrating...

the loser should just pack and thank or congratulate him later

This way there is nothing wrong on both players

**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

I said once and I will say again,

that's the way it should be

It all depends on the winner really...

If he or she is full of joy after winning, jumping up and down and start celebrating...

the loser should just pack and thank or congratulate him later

This way there is nothing wrong on both players

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Some say that the loser should wait at the net for the the winner to shake hand before he/she leaves the court.

But if I were the loser, I would not wait if he/she doesn't want to come to me first to shake my hand. I would thank the umpire, lines judges and spectators, and I would leave.
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**Yoppy** · 02-14-2011, 04:48 AM

Right on the mark Chris. No matter how joyful when we win, we should always think and respect the opponent as well as officials since we are here in a way because they are there. I see this not only in badminton and the whole other sports as well as in real life. I just dont understand this simple concept is somehow remote to some. I guess this may happen to someone who always win for a long time, and forgot the feeling the loser is maybe having at that moment.

**Yoppy** · 02-14-2011, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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Some say that the loser should wait at the net for the the winner to shake hand before he/she leaves the court.

But if I were the loser, I would not wait if he/she doesn't want to come to me first to shake my hand. I would thank the umpire, lines judges and spectators, and I would leave.
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Me too. Just walk away, there is no reason to stay.

**nokh88** · 02-14-2011, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

Me too. Just walk away, there is no reason to stay.

Correct.
As I have posted in another thread too. This is what you can emulate. Hehe....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4DgQjSsVSc&NR=1
He just walked away.

**Yoppy** · 02-14-2011, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by nokh88

Correct.
As I have posted in another thread too. This is what you can emulate. Hehe....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4DgQjSsVSc&NR=1
He just walked away.

You mean after kicking the racket into the air, and came only 1 meter away from your opponent and still walk away LOL??? No, not like that, thats a different story.

**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by nokh88

Correct.
As I have posted in another thread too. This is what you can emulate. Hehe....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4DgQjSsVSc&NR=1
He just walked away.

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I would wait for my opponent to stand up first (probably another 5 seconds), to wait for the hand shake before I go.
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**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

You mean after kicking the racket into the air, and came only 1 meter away from your opponent and still walk away LOL??? No, not like that, thats a different story.

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I would agree. It's a different story.

A picture paints a thousand words. Now that video is posted, we shall let our BCers to give us their thoughts/opinions.
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**pBmMalaysia** · 02-14-2011, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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I would agree. It's a different story.

A picture paints a thousand words. Now that video is posted, we shall let our BCers to give us their thoughts/opinions.
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I don't see anything wrong with that

Ld walked away but he had the intention to shake lcw's hand

but because he was busy so he walked away ...

If I were him I would do the same too

Standing there, ehm...doesn't look proper at all

**nokh88** · 02-14-2011, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

You mean after kicking the racket into the air, and came only 1 meter away from your opponent and still walk away LOL??? No, not like that, thats a different story.

No, not kicking the racquet.
I mean walk away.
After he has finished packing his bag (that was about when LCW has composed himself and looked like wanted to shake his hand) and turned to walk away.

**Bbn** · 02-14-2011, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

Right on the mark Chris. No matter how joyful when we win, we should always think and respect the opponent as well as officials since we are here in a way because they are there. I see this not only in badminton and the whole other sports as well as in real life. I just dont understand this simple concept is somehow remote to some. I guess this may happen to someone who always win for a long time, and forgot the feeling the loser is maybe having at that moment.

Very interesting critique,Yoppy,

Watch some old videos:

2000 Thomas Cup what Taufik did after winning his match in the Final
2002 Thomas Cup- what Hendrawan did after clinching the winning point against Msia

etc. etc.

**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Bbn

Watch some old videos:

2000 Thomas Cup what Taufik did after winning his match in the Final
2002 Thomas Cup- what Hendrawan did after clinching the winning point against Msia

etc. etc.

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Now that World Top names of players have been mentioned for not having good etiquette after a match, shouldn't BWF make it an official code of correct conduct for players to shake hands first?

Actually, in well-mannered sports, players usually shake hands before and after a match.
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**Bbn** · 02-14-2011, 10:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZvJYJqV4o

Also take this as a good sample.The racquet being smashed to the ground was not captured by the TV camera.

**chris-ccc** · 02-14-2011, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Bbn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZvJYJqV4o

Also take this as a good sample. The racquet being smashed to the ground was not captured by the TV camera.

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Were you there?: To watch the racket being smashed to the ground.

We were talking about hand shake, but the video did not show it either.
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**Bbn** · 02-14-2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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Were you there?: To watch the racket being smashed to the ground.

We were talking about hand shake, but the video did not show it either.
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The guy in red smashed his racquet to the ground and broke it.(It was captured by the reporter's camera).Then he walked away as seen in the closing stages of the video.

if you were in this forum in 2002 and had followed the 2002 Thomas Cup here in BC you will remember this incident.Do a search? There were many similar incidents during that time.It is amazing how quickly history can be forgotten.
Recently Tina Baun slammed her racquet too and it was followed by a fine and a yellow card, though she did go through the handshaking.

Players should learn from KKK, everytime opponents celebrate,he just packs up and leaves.
A few years back BWF used to give the " Eddy Choong Player of the Year Award" to players who knew how to win and also how to lose.In recent years there have been no awards, perhaps Eddy himself has come to terms that pro badminton is not the gentleman's game of his time anymore.

Many famous ladies tennis players(cant remember who) have scoffed all this handshaking and being gracious as sheer hypocrisy.I think pro players should at least observe some good manners and courtesy as it will reflect on their personalities.

**LD rules!** · 02-14-2011, 11:36 AM

There is only a certain amount of time that the loser can wait at the net to shake hand with the opponent. After a while it would get embarrasing and perhaps stupid.

On the otherhand, if you have a suprise win in a tournament or win a tournament, obviously you will be excited and happy, so shaking hands probably won't be the first thing on your mind. As long as you shake hands with the Umpire then it's ok.

Am I right in saying that Lin Dan is the only/one of the only players to shake hands with the Service Judge before the match ?