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    Continue to examine the impacts of the Malaysian Open to the Olympics qualifications.

    Itís needless to say that Chen Jin blown a golden chance big time to grab some points last week at Korea, the only good news is likewise for P. Gade thus the gap between the two remains unchanged. Here is table at the top after KO last week;
    Code:
    1 MAS Lee Chong Wei 90597 11
    2 CHN Lin Dan 87486 12
    3 CHN Chen Long 79240 12
    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 71103 12
    5 CHN Chen Jin 66330 13
    6 JPN Sho Sasaki 63056 15
    7 VIE Tien Minh Nguyen 51359 13
    8 CHN Du Pengyu 50420 11
    9 KOR Lee Hyun Il 50140 14
    10 INA Simon Santoso 49984 13
    11 JPN Kenichi Tago 47260 13
    12 INA Taufik Hidayat 46460 14
    13 CHN Wang Zhengming 45520 13
    14 GER Marc Zwiebler 42716 16
    15 KOR Shon Wan Ho 40560 15
    16 DEN Hans-Kristian Vittinghus 40440 14
    17 DEN Jan O Jorgensen 39270 9
    18 INA Tommy Sugiarto 38800 17
    From the latest draw, assuming LD is not too bother CJ should meet PG at SF but based on their recent form there is no guarantee that it is going to happen. My gut feeling is we wouldnít be seeing another LCW vs LD match until the London OLY, if at all. Both players should and will cut down their commitments and focus on the big one in August. For the top half of the draw LCW should meet CL at the SF, I say 65/35 to LCW with the home advantage. On paper CJ should finish ahead of PG, Gade again has a group of youngsters in his quarter thus a SF place is not so certain. The only threat in CJís quarter is Jorgensen, first I donít believe CJ will lose to him twice in a row and Jorgensen has Du PY and that other guy in the way before he meet CJ.

    Itís also quite interesting at the lower end of the top 16 as well. There is about 1000 points between the two Danish guys chasing for the second OLY place and although T. Sugiarto at No 18 looks like that he is out of it but he should try to get in the top 16 just in case one of his team mate drop out for whatever reason.

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    As for the WS the top 4 seeds for London are more or less confirmed. A. Goto at 18 is 1500 points behind L. Xin at 16 but with 1 game in hand LX can widen that gap by at least 3600 points. Itís unlikely that she can earn enough points to get into top 16 for qualification.
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    1 CHN Wang Yihan 89130 11
    2 CHN Wang Xin 84784 13
    3 CHN Wang Shixian 72267 12
    4 IND Saina Nehwal 65447 14
    5 DEN Tine Baun 61097 14
    7 GER Juliane Schenk 58574 15
    8 TPE Cheng Shao Chieh 55807 16
    10 KOR Sung Ji Hyun 53731 17
    11 THA Inthanon Ratchanok 53643 16
    12 KOR Bae Youn Joo 50048 17
    13 TPE Tai Tzu Ying 48667 14
    14 JPN Sayaka Sato 48280 19
    15 THA Porntip Buranaprasertsuk 43500 14
    17 SIN Juan Gu 40819 16
    18 JPN Ai Goto 39980 15
    19 BUL Petya Nedelcheva 38940 13

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    Again, similar to WS the MD top 4 seeds are almost there. The battle will be the second spot for the INA team. With many top teams missing Kido/Setiawan has a very good chance to grab that place with this tournament. The only threat in their half is Chia/Guo, a repeat performance of last week will put them in a very good position. Of course they have to beat their younger team mates if they are to meet in the SF, and with only Koreaís second pair at the other half they do have a good chance to win it. If so, their points will move up to No 8 and ahead of Chandra/Gunawan.
    Code:
    1 CHN Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng 94461 12
    2 KOR Jung Jae Sung / Lee Yong Dae 85561 14
    3 KOR Ko Sung Hyun / Yoo Yeon Seong 74865 15
    4 DEN Mathias Boe / Carsten Mogensen 72583 11
    5 INA Mohammad Ahsan / Bona Septano 60382 14
    6 MAS Kien Keat Koo / Boon Heong Tan 56671 11
    7 CHN Chai Biao / Guo Zhendong 55740 13
    8 INA Alvent Yulianto Chandra / Hendra Aprida Gunawan 53020 15
    9 INA Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan 50690 12
    10 JPN Naoki Kawamae / Shoji Sato 49484 17
    12 TPE Fang Chieh Min / Lee Sheng Mu 47939 17
    14 GER Ingo Kindervater / Johannes Schoettler 42826 17
    18 POL Adam Cwalina / Michal Logosz 39370 17
    19 USA Howard Bach / Tony Gunawan 37891 11
    21 RUS Vladimir Ivanov / Ivan Sozonov 36834 13
    35 AUS Ross Smith / Glenn Warfe 25740 11
    44 RSA Dorian Lance James / Willem Viljoen 21113 10
    if Kido/Setiawan win the t'ment, they will qualify;
    Code:
    8 INA Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan 56290 13
    9 INA Alvent Yulianto Chandra / Hendra Aprida Gunawan 55120 16
    if Kido/Setiawan are runner's up they will still be 400 points behind.
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    WDís top 4 seeds are also almost confirmed. Koreaís Jung/Kim at No 9 is 600 points behind the Danish pair, if they finish in front of the Dan they will be qualify as well. Another battle is between the 2 Malaysian pairs with 1400 points between them for the solitary place. Can Iris Wang of USA catch up the 1500 points deficit to their Canadian Neighbour and join her sister to London? Unlikely after this week but we still got 4 months to go. Imagine, that will be SIX Wang just for the women's badminton.
    Code:
    1 CHN Wang Xiaoli / Yu Yang (F) 99055 10
    2 CHN Tian Qing / Zhao Yunlei 85778 12
    3 KOR Ha Jung Eun / Kim Min Jung 73312 14
    4 JPN Mizuki Fujii / Reika Kakiiwa 65050 14
    5 JPN Miyuki Maeda / Satoko Suetsuna 58725 15
    7 TPE Cheng Wen Hsing / Chien Yu Chin 52500 14
    8 DEN Kamilla Rytter Juhl / Christinna Pedersen 51986 12
    9 KOR Jung Kyung Eun / Kim Ha Na 51390 16
    10 INA Greysia Polii / Meiliana Jauhari 50683 12
    12 SIN Shinta Mulia Sari / Lei Yao 49112 19
    13 RUS Valeri Sorokina / Nina Vislova 45127 13
    14 HKG Poon Lok Yan / Tse Ying Suet 44611 16
    16 IND Jwala Gutta / Ashwini Ponnappa 42308 14
    17 MAS Vivian Kah Mun Hoo / Khe Wei Woon 40880 11
    19 MAS Eei Hui Chin / Pei Tty Wong 39483 14
    23 CAN Nicole Grether / Charmaine Reid 34040 21
    26 USA Iris Wang / Rena Wang 32590 17
    30 AUS Leanne Choo / Renuga Veeran 28729 9
    42 RSA Michelle Claire Edwards / Annari Viljoen 19925 13
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    XD is the most boring one, the top 14 are all qualified and looks like that going to stay.
    Code:
    1 CHN Zhang Nan / Zhao Yunlei 86200 11
    2 DEN Joachim Fischer Nielsen / Christinna Pedersen 80036 12
    3 CHN Xu Chen / Ma Jin 79686 14
    4 INA Tontowi Ahmad / Liliyana Natsir 69740 13
    5 TPE Chen Hung Ling / Cheng Wen Hsing 66822 16
    6 DEN Thomas Laybourn / Kamilla Rytter Juhl 52873 12
    7 KOR Lee Yong Dae / Ha Jung Eun 52740 14
    8 THA Sudket Prapakamol / Saralee Thoungthongkam 50494 16
    9 JPN Shintaro Ikeda / Reiko Shiota 48550 16
    10 MAS Peng Soon Chan / Liu Ying Goh 46720 12
    11 RUS Alexandr Nikolaenko / Valeri Sorokina 44178 13
    12 GER Michael Fuchs / Birgit Michels 43644 19
    13 IND V. Diju / Jwala Gutta 43630 10
    14 GBR Chris Adcock / Imogen Bankier 42470 11
    24 CAN Toby Ng / Grace Gao 35270 18
    27 SIN Danny Bawa Chrisnanta / Yu Yan Vanessa Neo 33280 15

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    AlanY, can you update the WhatIf scenarios for CJ vs. PG now that PG lost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    AlanY, can you update the WhatIf scenarios for CJ vs. PG now that PG lost?
    yes, boss.

    A run through on the day before the SF;
    With yet another early exit of PG, Chen Jin is on course to the final and earns valuable OLY points.
    As it stand, CJ is way behind PG, over 3000 points.

    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 71103 13
    5 CHN Chen Jin 67850 14

    if CJ beat Tago and in the final, the gap is narrowing to 2000 points.

    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 71103 13
    5 CHN Chen Jin 69230 14

    if he win it (notice the big if), he will be in touching distance with PG.
    4 DEN Peter Hoeg Gade 71103 13
    5 CHN Chen Jin 70630 14

    Jorgensen with 2 QFs in a row is now overtook Vittinghus by 4000 points, looks safe for Denmarkís MS2.

    As for the MD, unfortunately Kido/Setiawan didnít took advantage of the weaken field can only managed a QF place thus still are 2000 points behinds their younger team mates. Really love to see Kido/Setiawan have a chance to defense their title.

    And the XD, The British pair Robertson/Wallwork again failed to capitalise their first round victory over Adcock/Bankier and still 5000 points behind. Their chance for qualification is rapidly fading away.

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    thank you!

    with May 3rd quickly approaching, i think PG may have successfully prevented CJ from going to the Olympics. too bad for CJ as he didn't capitalize on the big opening PG gave him during KO.

    however, if CJ is desperate, maybe he will pull a Taufik and shows up in Australia.

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    chen jin play better today

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    chen jin play better today
    maybe he just started realizing his dire situation? cannot be so dense, can he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    maybe he just started realizing his dire situation? cannot be so dense, can he?
    but peter gade is aware of chen jin situation
    peter say he will decide his participation on tournament depend on chen jin ranking point

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    there are still lots of opportunities for CJ to catch up.
    Since he didn't played in last year's Thomas Cup, the TC prelim next month will be an easy 7000 points for him if he play.
    The German Open just before the AE, and the AE itself are all possibilities.
    After that, Swiss Open and as you said Auss Open and the India SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    there are still lots of opportunities for CJ to catch up.
    Since he didn't played in last year's Thomas Cup, the TC prelim next month will be an easy 7000 points for him if he play.
    The German Open just before the AE, and the AE itself are all possibilities.
    After that, Swiss Open and as you said Auss Open and the India SS.
    Basically he has to play all tournaments consecutively with the exception of Asian Badminton Championship until the Singapore Open 2012, Indonesia Open will not count towards the qualification so He has quite a lot of tournaments to play to squeeze the gap between him and Gade. As i see it, Gade is beginning to lose steam and fitness now, his game in Korea and Malaysia clearly said it all. Chen Jin was a retard for wasting the best chance to narrow it greatly should he made to the semis of the Korea Open (Lin Dan would have given him the walkover like I said). Well let's see how Chen Jin performs against the dangerous Tago-san tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    but peter gade is aware of chen jin situationpeter say he will decide his participation on tournament depend on chen jin ranking point
    But it's not wise for PG to push himself to more tournaments just to hack CJ out of OG. That may make himself tired prior to OG. I think he should now plan for building up his form to the best towards OG disregard how CJ does.


    Given the inconsistent form of CJ, there is still lot of struggle in his quest. Guess LD's loss to JOJ is a message fr CH team the CJ must also insert more effort from his own part rather than just spoon feeding fr team mates. Let's see how CJ perform today.

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