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    Default 40 year old newbie needs your help!

    in order to ask a question more efficiently in this Techniques/Training forum, and in order for others to answer your question more efficient and accurately, you need to do the following :

    before you start a thread, do a search and see if there is an existing thread on what you are trying to ask. if so, read it and follow up on that thread if you have questions.

    if you do reply or start a new thread, make sure you specify the following:
    • your level of play, beginner/intermediate/etc.
    • your physical built, male/female, age, tall/short, weak/strong
    • what are you trying to achieve / learn? please give specific objectives if possible.
    • what have you tried? what was the result?
      • did you have any particular difficulties in performing a certain part of the technique?
      • how is the outcome not as good as you expected?
    also, please keep in mind the following:
    • be specific in what you ask. questions like "how to improve my footwork?" without any more specifics will require the length of a book to answer. instead, find a specific aspect in which you want improvement.
    if you are a beginner, read this thread:

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=20867

    and make sure you are not starting on the wrong path.

    if you follow this guideline, it will make it much easier for others to help you.


    Shalom to Everyone!

    They say that life begins at 40. I say my badminton life begins at 40!
    I need all your help guys...

    Level of Play: Beginner( First time to ever play badminton)

    Physical Built: very fat, male, 40yrs old, 5'4inches, slow to move

    What are you trying to achieve/learn? First, to reach my BMI weight of 65kgs.
    Second, to reach class A on my age bracket.

    What have u tried? What was the result? I tried to learn the basic foot works and grips for almost a week now before playing my ever first game just this night. the result was that i forgot all about it by the time i played.

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    a week cannot make a champion. people much younger with higher learning ability takes months, years to learn and perfect their technique. and likely someone as old as you and I will never be able to learn some of them.

    it is not uncommon to forget about what one practiced during a game. that happens to everyone.

    footwork is especially hard as well, so keep practicing, keep watching videos, doing shadow drills, find someone to feed you birdies one by one instead of in a game. with hardwork, you will get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    a week cannot make a champion. people much younger with higher learning ability takes months, years to learn and perfect their technique. and likely someone as old as you and I will never be able to learn some of them.

    it is not uncommon to forget about what one practiced during a game. that happens to everyone.

    footwork is especially hard as well, so keep practicing, keep watching videos, doing shadow drills, find someone to feed you birdies one by one instead of in a game. with hardwork, you will get it.
    Thanks Sir Kwun!
    Yes, il keep on practicing, keep watching videos and the like. Indeed hardwork and persistence is the key. And with the BC supporting me, in due time il achieve my goals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by migthythor View Post
    Thanks Sir Kwun!
    Yes, il keep on practicing, keep watching videos and the like. Indeed hardwork and persistence is the key. And with the BC supporting me, in due time il achieve my goals!
    that's it!

    it is hard. badminton is hard work, actually. looks easy but in reality, very very hard. but as long as one understands that and keep working at it, you will reach your goal and along the way, you will have lots of fun and meet a lot of new friends as well.

    do come and update us with your progress and ask any questions.

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    First, Don't have and Completely Erase the Police Fat Attitude! The Term couldn't be familiar and offensive to you but for those got that mistake gives the Best Advice!
    Second, would be Exercise Warm Up before the Game!
    Third, Don't Try to Hard to be a Hero at Once, the Consequences can be Very Damaging! Just Play at your Humble Professional Happy Pace!
    Fourth, Don't Outrage to Others when Things Don't Happened in Your Dreams and Ways!
    Conclusively Surely at the Safe Side, have a Dignified Physical Medical Examination First Before All These!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    that's it!

    it is hard. badminton is hard work, actually. looks easy but in reality, very very hard. but as long as one understands that and keep working at it, you will reach your goal and along the way, you will have lots of fun and meet a lot of new friends as well.

    do come and update us with your progress and ask any questions.
    Indeed you're very much right Sir Kwun that badminton is hard work and it looks easy until you yourself experience it! In fact if i first played it before i discover BC and started practicing the basics like footwork and grip a week ago, i would have just quit...

    BC with its forums, videos and information served as my coach in overcoming my first problem which is quitting...

    With these in mind, im now asking for your help in regards in choosing my first racket and shoes.
    With budget and durability in mind, im thinking of getting a Yonex NanoRay20 for my racket and Yonex ShB43ex for my shoes. I would highly appreciate your inputs and other suggestions.

    Keep on Smashing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadHustle View Post
    First, Don't have and Completely Erase the Police Fat Attitude! The Term couldn't be familiar and offensive to you but for those got that mistake gives the Best Advice!
    Second, would be Exercise Warm Up before the Game!
    Third, Don't Try to Hard to be a Hero at Once, the Consequences can be Very Damaging! Just Play at your Humble Professional Happy Pace!
    Fourth, Don't Outrage to Others when Things Don't Happened in Your Dreams and Ways!
    Conclusively Surely at the Safe Side, have a Dignified Physical Medical Examination First Before All These!
    Thanks for the enlightening advise Sir BadHustle

    I already had my dignified Med. Examination, for the most part its ok only my cholesterol level is higher than normal.
    Indeed things didn't happen the first time i played, but i kept my cool. I only shared it here because i know people like would understand and advise me what to do
    Bottom line would be that im taking and following your advise to the letter because i know it will lead me in achieving my goals!

    Keep on Smashing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by migthythor View Post
    Thanks for the enlightening advise Sir BadHustle

    I already had my dignified Med. Examination, for the most part its ok only my cholesterol level is higher than normal.
    Indeed things didn't happen the first time i played, but i kept my cool. I only shared it here because i know people like would understand and advise me what to do
    Bottom line would be that im taking and following your advise to the letter because i know it will lead me in achieving my goals!

    Keep on Smashing!
    good luck!
    I was 121 kgs before and now 107 ( lost 15 kgs gained 1 kg because of Christmas lol..)
    so I know how it feels to become fat and slow.

    believe me if you have good footwork you will feel as fast as lightning!
    I felt that first time last year
    good footwork = fast movement around the court

    learning grip is important and then learn how to do proper shot

    invest some of your money on shoes
    it improves my game play (compared to buying new rackets)

    buy proper racket, at least graphite
    try some inexpensive brand such as apacs (you can find a good deal on Ebay such as US $60 for 2 graphite racket)

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    re shoes: many people suggest, if you're on the heavier side ie. over 200lbs, to not get badminton shoes but basketball shoes instead, like the latest nike kobes

    because normal badminton shoes won't provide cushioning for your wt as much as basketball shoes

    just fyi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    good luck!
    I was 121 kgs before and now 107 ( lost 15 kgs gained 1 kg because of Christmas lol..)
    so I know how it feels to become fat and slow.

    believe me if you have good footwork you will feel as fast as lightning!
    I felt that first time last year
    good footwork = fast movement around the court

    learning grip is important and then learn how to do proper shot

    invest some of your money on shoes
    it improves my game play (compared to buying new rackets)

    buy proper racket, at least graphite
    try some inexpensive brand such as apacs (you can find a good deal on Ebay such as US $60 for 2 graphite racket)
    Thanks Avenger!

    Its good to know that someone in my weight class has conquered the battle of the bulge!
    it serves as an inspiring example to me in achieving my goals.

    Could you share your workouts and meal plan, so that i can pattern it to suit my situation.TIA

    keep on smashing
    migthythor

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    re shoes: many people suggest, if you're on the heavier side ie. over 200lbs, to not get badminton shoes but basketball shoes instead, like the latest nike kobes

    because normal badminton shoes won't provide cushioning for your wt as much as basketball shoes

    just fyi
    Thanks Visor!

    Your recommendation would be into consideration seriously.

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    looking at your goal, you can try doing extra cardio workout on top of your baddy training.

    best advise i can give is to focus and keep your eye on the shuttle

    just practise hitting to each other first then use a "dead" shuttle and just practise hitting against the wall.

    also go to youtube and search for the BWF channel. they have the new program on coaching "shuttle time" i think its called

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    i agree with the shoes part, but not basketball shoes bc they have higher ankle support which limites ur feet movement and can actually cause injuries or calluses around ur ankle. try regular runners or tennis shoes that are low in ankles but also have added sole padding.

    if you have access to weights, add them into your badminton program. strength training is actually a great way to lose weight because it burns more calories and brings definition faster to ur muscles. u don't need to do them everyday, just 2 times a week for 15min will bring u measurable results in a month.

    also if you're heavy, moving around the court can add extra stress on ur knees. to this i'd suggest getting some decent knee braces just as precautionary. the stop-go movements in badminton can be very stressful on ur lower body joints.

    finally i just wana say keep playing badminton on a regular basis. try to push urself while maintaining proper form and not over stress ur joints and muscles. badminton is a great sport to get into shape. I've known at least 2 or 3 friends that did lose weight and their beer belly by playing badminton over a period of 2 years or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moomoo View Post
    looking at your goal, you can try doing extra cardio workout on top of your baddy training.

    best advise i can give is to focus and keep your eye on the shuttle

    just practise hitting to each other first then use a "dead" shuttle and just practise hitting against the wall.

    also go to youtube and search for the BWF channel. they have the new program on coaching "shuttle time" i think its called
    Thanks Moomoo!

    il do what you have suggested...
    thanks for sharing the bwf channel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capnx View Post
    i agree with the shoes part, but not basketball shoes bc they have higher ankle support which limites ur feet movement and can actually cause injuries or calluses around ur ankle. try regular runners or tennis shoes that are low in ankles but also have added sole padding.

    if you have access to weights, add them into your badminton program. strength training is actually a great way to lose weight because it burns more calories and brings definition faster to ur muscles. u don't need to do them everyday, just 2 times a week for 15min will bring u measurable results in a month.

    also if you're heavy, moving around the court can add extra stress on ur knees. to this i'd suggest getting some decent knee braces just as precautionary. the stop-go movements in badminton can be very stressful on ur lower body joints.

    finally i just wana say keep playing badminton on a regular basis. try to push urself while maintaining proper form and not over stress ur joints and muscles. badminton is a great sport to get into shape. I've known at least 2 or 3 friends that did lose weight and their beer belly by playing badminton over a period of 2 years or so...
    Thanks Capnx!

    yes, il try to buy tennis shoes with extra sole padding and at the same time get some decent knee braces.

    as for the weights, would dumb bells would do? what would you suggest for my strength training?

    indeed i would keep on playing badminton for the more i play, the more i love the game!

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    Lightbulb Footwork: Think of our balance first, before our steps taken in order to move

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    I would like to add this tip for Footwork;

    Think of our balance first, before of our steps taken in order to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I would like to add this tip for Footwork;

    Think of our balance first, before of our steps taken in order to move.
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    good advice, move with balance foremost

    but i think i heard it from txh some 20 years ago...

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