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02-02-2012, 01:41 AM #35
I have thought over this issue in some depth and I am afraid I have to disagree with the opinions expressed by BCers.
I think it was a very well thought out position taken by BAM if you consider the overall picture.
Morale is very important and to minimize any morale-shattering blow to the players and country resulting from an early exit from the Thomas Cup, it is best to refocus your priorities. To do this it is best to be frank upfront so that any loss of confidence from the Thomas Cup rounds will not in any way adversely impact on the Olympics. Just imagine what will happen to LCW (and his Olympics dreams) if the public goes insane/mad over the Thomas Cup loss?
Yes, LCW may win all his matches and the others will lose. But will this improve or worsen the relationships between LCW and the others? LCW will of course be affected by any bad feeling he may perceive coming from the other players as a result of 'LCW's win only to be let down by the others' scenario, which is very likely.
Also, frankly, I am surprised by the utter lack of differences of opinions here. All I read is just in one direction, with no independent input. I hope it is not because of prejudices against BAM like the way they are dammed if they do one way and dammed if the other way. I for one support them here for the position they have taken.
02-02-2012, 02:01 AM #36
haha if i hve that 10 million i will be running my own badminton association by now.
02-02-2012, 02:36 AM #37
what happened to the Chinese team morale after they lost in the Uber Cup in 2010? they went onto take all 5 WC gold medals that year.
02-02-2012, 02:50 AM #38
02-02-2012, 05:05 AM #39
there is always some who say hitler is a hero
and he claim others are prejudice and bla bla bla
02-02-2012, 05:41 AM #40
The most combative Malaysian Men's squad was from 1986-1992. Unlike the dominant Malayan Thomas Cup-winning squads of '49, '52, '55 and '67, they were not the best, not even 2nd best.
But fighting spirit gave them 1 Thomas Cup title, 2 runners-up finish (to China) and one 3rd place during the 1986-1992 Campaigns. Then politicians took over and all is history ........
02-02-2012, 07:02 AM #41
Who is this NCC anyway ? I hope he gets fired because what he says has completely put Malaysian badminton out of the map.. What an epic RETARD
02-02-2012, 07:33 AM #42
On the same day (Feb 1), another article from The Star
Rexy believes women’s team can make cut for Uber Cup
PETALING JAYA: The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) may not have much faith in the men’s team making the cut for the Thomas Cup Finals, but national women’s doubles coach Rexy Mainaky believes his charges can qualify for the Uber Cup Finals.
Malaysia have been drawn with powerhouses China and India in Group W for the Uber Cup qualifying rounds, which begin in Macau on Feb 13 and stand a very slim chance of reaching the Finals, which will be held in Wuhan, China, in May. With former national ace Wong Mew Choo already retired, Malaysia are shorn of singles talent as the likes of Tee Jing Yi, Lydia Cheah, Sannatasah Saniru and Yang Li Lian are nowhere near capable of carrying the team past the group stages.
Saina Nehwal: Rexy thinks Tee Jing Yi can give the Indian shuttler a run for her money.
However, Rexy feels that the draw isn’t too bad and that there is a realistic chance of overcoming India to advance from the group stages.
“Our main target is to overcome India ... if (Chin) Eei Hui-(Wong) Pei Tty are injury-free, they have the quality to win a point against the top Indian pair of Jwala Gutta-Ashwini Ponnappa,” said Rexy.
“Our second doubles are also not to be underestimated ... they can rise to the occasion.
“In the singles, Jing Yi could give Saina Nehwal a run for her money and an on-form Lydia can overcome India’s second singles without much difficulty.”
Besides Eei Hui-Pei Tty, the other women’s doubles shuttlers in the squad are Vivian Hoo-Woon Khe Wei and Goh Liu Ying-Lim Yin Loo.
Vivian-Khe Wei reached the quarter-finals of the Malaysian Open last month while Liu Ying-Yin Loo pulled off a stunning win over Jwala-Ashwini in the India Open GP Gold last December.
Rexy also confirmed that Khe Wei, who twisted her ankle during the Malaysian Open, is already doing light training.
“She is not yet 100% fit and her movement is a little restricted, but she is recovering fast and should be fit for the qualifiers,” he said.
02-02-2012, 07:37 AM #43
Also on the same day (1 Feb), another article in The Star
Chong Wei banking on team spirit to help Malaysia qualify
PETALING JAYA: World No. 1 Lee Chong Wei is ready to play his part and help Malaysia make it past the Thomas Cup qualifying rounds, which will be held in Macau from Feb 13-19.
Malaysia have one of the weakest squads ever and have been drawn in the tough Group D with second seeds South Korea and Hong Kong.
They will have their work cut out if they aim to avoid the embarrassment of failing to qualify for the Finals for the third time.
Rising stars: Goh V Shem (right) and Lim Khim Wah will be Malaysia’s second pair in the Thomas Cup qualifiers.
Malaysia have failed to qualify for the Finals only twice – in 1973 and 1979.
But Chong Wei believes that the current team need to unite in order to pull through.
“I am aware that we do not have a strong squad, but we have nothing to lose and I am hoping for some strong team spirit to pull ourselves through,” said Chong Wei.
“We will go out there and try our very best to qualify for the Thomas Cup Finals.
“As for the match against the Koreans, I hope we can pull through with one point from singles and two more from the doubles pairs.
“It will be crucial for me to win the first singles because it will help take the pressure off the doubles pairs ... hopefully our second and third singles will be able to steal a point as well.
“For now, it is important that we focus on the group stages and nothing else.
“We must prepare ourselves as best we can for the qualifiers.”
Besides Chong Wei, the other singles players in the squad are Mohd Hafiz Hashim, Liew Daren and Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.
The doubles shuttlers include Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Goh V Shem-Lim Khim Wah, Hoon Thien How and Teo Kok Siang.
It looks like Chong Wei isn’t the only who thinks Malaysia can overcome South Korea.
National men’s singles head coach Rashid Sidek thinks his men can topple South Korea and make the quarter-finals as group winners.
“South Korea are very strong in the doubles and the key to scoring an upset win over them is for one of our doubles pairs to steal a point,” said Rashid.
“Even then, we definitely need two points from the singles, so Hafiz or Daren will have to deliver the goods, just like Chong Wei.
“This is our best chance because their second singles Park Sung-hwan is just recovering from an injury and may not be fully fit.
“Still, we have to be fully prepared because their third singles, Shon Wan-ho is a dangerous player.”
02-02-2012, 08:45 AM #44
hope MAS team will show themselves what they are... or GO HOME...!!
02-02-2012, 08:50 AM #45
02-02-2012, 08:53 AM #46
02-02-2012, 09:35 AM #47
Liew Daren, well what can I say...we need him as much as we need Hafiz to cover the remaining MS spots.
02-02-2012, 10:05 AM #48
Might as well pull out LCW is NCC is not interested in TC?
Let the juniors play. What a waste of time and paying HPT.
For OG, there's only LCW with a medal prospect. So, why need so many HPT or CC?
02-02-2012, 11:54 AM #49
Stealing limelight and squeezing the juice (money)
The only reason HPT exist now is that Malaysia has a world number 1 player still sitting on top of the ranking for the longest running time no other malaysian player has managed to do so.
I don't know if HPT existed before this (LCW up and coming era) but maybe someone else from BC can clarify this.
The way i see it, if Malaysia had 1 LCW, there will be 3 chin cais or his 'alikes'. If Malaysia has 3 LCW, then we would have 9 chin cais or his 'alikes'.
When LCW retires, then so can the HPT retire. Because they are all banking and using LCW as their bread and butter.
Sure I understand the part about not putting up the players to undue pressure of demoralizing defeat and thereby affecting the morale of the coming olympics. But I still say the reason for such utter blatant comment of hinting at giving up before the TC begins, 'IS TO COVER THEIR SORRY ASSES'.
02-02-2012, 03:26 PM #50
02-02-2012, 03:53 PM #51Someone from HK is confused the malaysian public to BC forumers here. The latter, i.e. yours truly included, are vocal and voice own uncensored opinions like sumatran tigers but safely protected behind a computer screen, while the malaysian public would yap bravely too in the kopitiams but like a pussy cat doing nothing much when time calls for action - that is our national past time as I recalled during the time I was in MAS
LCW knows MAS TC is hopeless, maybe every country outside of CHN is hopeless and LCW is smart, what do we expect him to say, to commit political incorrect sin like 'I give up', 'no hope lah' yada. LCW spoke well like a pack leader 'I do my best' ' fighting spirt' and yadayada, speak all the tight words and stay away from these crap and let NCC screwed it up putting a shoe in his mouth.
If MAS loses every game and LCW win every one, that would not affect LCW OLY dream and his most important target OLY gold and LD/CL in the way. LCW winning 8 national title, all these SS, huge endorsement, datoship, ferrari and his huge baddy income may be more demoralizing to his teammates, some oth them making nothing much.
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