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    To put things in perspective, the Thomas Cup today is a poor shadow of what it was in earlier days.
    When Malaysia became the first country to win the Thomas Cup in the 1940s it was then the only global championship at par with the Olympics in the frequency it was contested-every 4 years.
    Today, we have the Surdiman Cup, the Uber Cup, the downgrading of the Thomas Cup to 2 years frequency, the World Championship , and since 1992 the Olympics.
    Let us be realistic, every country would give top priority to the Olympics today. I am sure China would be prepared to even walk away from the Thomas Cup in exchange for guaranteed Golds in the Olympics.
    Another thing, it is one thing to be very passionate and vocal fans but to have only one opinion, always negative in a mob-like or herd-like pattern, are not a good reflection of the type of fans we should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    To put things in perspective, the Thomas Cup today is a poor shadow of what it was in earlier days.
    When Malaysia became the first country to win the Thomas Cup in the 1940s it was then the only global championship at par with the Olympics in the frequency it was contested-every 4 years.
    Today, we have the Surdiman Cup, the Uber Cup, the downgrading of the Thomas Cup to 2 years frequency, the World Championship , and since 1992 the Olympics.
    Let us be realistic, every country would give top priority to the Olympics today. I am sure China would be prepared to even walk away from the Thomas Cup in exchange for guaranteed Golds in the Olympics.
    Another thing, it is one thing to be very passionate and vocal fans but to have only one opinion, always negative in a mob-like or herd-like pattern, are not a good reflection of the type of fans we should have.
    That is a very vague, dubious, neither here nor there argument. So are you the other type of non mob-like, herd-like, tribe-like other kind of fan?

    Pardon me, it is the passion of fans and sportsman that brings brilliance to the sport, not wishy-washies ppl who don't know and who don't have a clue which direction to go, ie going for the Sabah trip when there are no direct flights to Macau.

    But mostly it is inevitable that passion brings people together to stand up for what they believe in; but it is sad sometimes to be labeled as a MOB.
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    its either they are the same person or shadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    To put things in perspective, the Thomas Cup today is a poor shadow of what it was in earlier days.
    When Malaysia became the first country to win the Thomas Cup in the 1940s it was then the only global championship at par with the Olympics in the frequency it was contested-every 4 years.
    Today, we have the Surdiman Cup, the Uber Cup, the downgrading of the Thomas Cup to 2 years frequency, the World Championship , and since 1992 the Olympics.
    Let us be realistic, every country would give top priority to the Olympics today. I am sure China would be prepared to even walk away from the Thomas Cup in exchange for guaranteed Golds in the Olympics.
    Another thing, it is one thing to be very passionate and vocal fans but to have only one opinion, always negative in a mob-like or herd-like pattern, are not a good reflection of the type of fans we should have.
    I thought being mob-like or herd-like is the very definition of being fans. Ever seen a one-man fan base? Or a group with fans who disagree with each other?

    That said, I believe we all have different degrees of opinion. Most of us may have negative (or positive) opinions about a certain issue, but it can range from total disgust to slight distaste. However, since only those with strong feelings tend to be vocal about it, the general opinion can be easily misinterpreted.

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    If there's one good point of the Thomas Cup to the Malaysian team it would be that the several shuttlers in centralized training might improve...

    One slot wasted on Hafiz

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcyong View Post
    I thought being mob-like or herd-like is the very definition of being fans. Ever seen a one-man fan base? Or a group with fans who disagree with each other?

    That said, I believe we all have different degrees of opinion. Most of us may have negative (or positive) opinions about a certain issue, but it can range from total disgust to slight distaste. However, since only those with strong feelings tend to be vocal about it, the general opinion can be easily misinterpreted.
    I agree with hcyong.

    There is a 'mostly' right interpretation, and there is a 'mostly' off the mark/wrong interpretation on every issue or matter pertaining to BAM lately.

    However I do not give a hoot about those who can't take a side ie 'sitting on the fence'.

    For the sake of taneepak's argument, let's give him the benefit of the doubt for arbitration. Let's say BAM is doing right by not pressuring the players to give their all for upcoming TC. They don't want to jeopardize the Olympics - understandable. But to even openly announced it? Then why not just forget about the TC and focused on Olympics? Why not just send Zulfadli, keep LCW at home then?

    It's going to be ironic if for some circumstances that Malaysia does enter into the TC final, mark my words, BAM will then change the wind direction and say that initially they didn't want to put them under too much pressure (the real reason to cover their behinds) but change their mind and made a conviction to go all the way anyway. In that way, the get to share the limelight - again, against all odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    If there's one good point of the Thomas Cup to the Malaysian team it would be that the several shuttlers in centralized training might improve...

    One slot wasted on Hafiz
    if bam have a method to improve their player
    they should do it everyday and night
    why only they do it 2 weeks out of 52?
    cant understand the mentality and concept

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    Of course it was mob behavior with some herd-like support too. It was a verbal lynching mob with BAM the poor victim, being made to suffer a thousand cuts. Besides those in the lynching mob there were also "supporters" who, herd-like, cheered the mob on.
    It is obvious that those who "used" their killing weapons will always deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Of course it was mob behavior with some herd-like support too. It was a verbal lynching mob with BAM the poor victim, being made to suffer a thousand cuts. Besides those in the lynching mob there were also "supporters" who, herd-like, cheered the mob on. It is obvious that those who "used" their killing weapons will always deny it.
    Since when has BAM been a victim, or even a poor one? It s the players who are the real victims. In the space of a week, NCC went from, MAS may not qualify, then MAS better reach the Semifinals, otherwise gotta play another seven rounds, to TC not important so can lose, no worries, team! Who is this guy at the helm? It s like he can t figure out what he s supposed to do or he changes his mind as new input filters in. This NCC has been behaving like a rat in the maze, hitting dead end decisions constantly so MAS is going nowhere. In such cases, what do we do with the rat? We replace it. When NCC s not doing his job ( how many years damage already?) the right thing is to resign, if not, he has to be shown the exit. Maybe he said wait till Aug...If LCW wins, I get my prize, if LCW does not, no point hanging around because no more chance for big prize, same for James and Ah Jit, we re buddies going for London holidays, this year Ah Jit as well, MayBank becomes AugustBank just for this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Of course it was mob behavior with some herd-like support too. It was a verbal lynching mob with BAM the poor victim, being made to suffer a thousand cuts. Besides those in the lynching mob there were also "supporters" who, herd-like, cheered the mob on.
    It is obvious that those who "used" their killing weapons will always deny it.
    You are sending out a troll waiting for a bait. Well then, single out one thing that NCC has done since he took the helm at BAM that benefits Malaysian badminton. This chap has made some of the worst decisions and said some of the stupidiest thing as the so-called leader of the pack. Sure he can't blame for lack of funding. The fact he still keeps his job and run this boat like a drunk sailor despite all these screw-ups tells me he got serious connections and top heavy backup. And Maybank giving away $6M this year and $7M next without demanding accountability smell like a rotten fish. Who really are benefitting financially from the windfall? I would not be surprised if one day the account is bare after these chaps call it a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Of course it was mob behavior with some herd-like support too. It was a verbal lynching mob with BAM the poor victim, being made to suffer a thousand cuts. Besides those in the lynching mob there were also "supporters" who, herd-like, cheered the mob on.
    It is obvious that those who "used" their killing weapons will always deny it.
    Just 3 cuts will do

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    lol
    they talked a lot in media
    about who partner who is ok
    who have better record against who
    the more they talk,the less surprise they can spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    lol
    they talked a lot in media
    about who partner who is ok
    who have better record against who
    the more they talk,the less surprise they can spring
    Yeah, I disagree with them talking to the media especially about the HTH/TBH thingy in the NST...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcyong View Post
    Just 3 cuts will do
    This is profound, why 3? Let me think, is 3 your favourite number. Or NCC, James and Ah Jit make the 3. That s too small a number for mob like casualty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    To put things in perspective, the Thomas Cup today is a poor shadow of what it was in earlier days. When Malaysia became the first country to win the Thomas Cup in the 1940s it was then the only global championship at par with the Olympics in the frequency it was contested-every 4 years.Today, we have the Surdiman Cup, the Uber Cup, the downgrading of the Thomas Cup to 2 years frequency, the World Championship , and since 1992 the Olympics. Let us be realistic, every country would give top priority to the Olympics today. I am sure China would be prepared to even walk away from the Thomas Cup in exchange for guaranteed Golds in the Olympics.Another thing, it is one thing to be very passionate and vocal fans but to have only one opinion, always negative in a mob-like or herd-like pattern, are not a good reflection of the type of fans we should have.
    On the contrary, Thomas Cup and other team tournaments have upstaged individual tournaments because there are no fake matches. Plus the suspense element of surprise options depending on coach intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Yeah, I disagree with them talking to the media especially about the HTH/TBH thingy in the NST...
    Yup, too talkative but with little good work been done thus far................these group of people...!!!

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