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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    You mean PG can still use his Sudirman Cup to add to his Olympics qualifying points. Wouldn't the SC points expire by then?
    Why not? The Sudirman Cup is still within the Qualifying period (May 2011 to Apr 2012). So, for eligibility purpose, it still counts. If the Sudirman Cup pts for any player/pair is higher than that from the TUC qualifying, the higher pts will still be retained in the total ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Why not? The Sudirman Cup is still within the Qualifying period (May 2011 to Apr 2012). So, for eligibility purpose, it still counts. If the Sudirman Cup pts for any player/pair is higher than that from the TUC qualifying, the higher pts will still be retained in the total ranking.
    And CJ did not have any SC pts because he did not play. Does the Olympics qualifying specify that only one Team tournament ranking pts can be counted? So PG can only choose SC or TUC Qualifying points, but not both?

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    YES. Only one team event can be counted in the total ranking pts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    YES. Only one team event can be counted in the total ranking pts.
    where can i find the world rankings of teams?

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    where can i find the world rankings of teams?
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    cxytdn posted the World Team Ranking on 03-Feb-2012.

    Here is the link;

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ing-2012-02-02
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    PJB complains because the opportunity to gain points is very much higher than before (even when players lose), not because he does not know the opportunity to do so was always there before, but the generosity of the points that can be earned so easily even if you lose.

    However, on the other side of it is that BWF probably allows this to make a tournament event 'hotter' when it entices high ranking players to participate as it offers much points to reap from. This in turn will boost ticket sales. Sadly, the environment during the Uber Cup finals were lacking in spectators and far more conducive for swatting flies even though the battle between Japan's Eriko and Liu Xin was extremely exciting for me to watch.

    I still think it is unfair to other countries to allow a host nation to reap points just from playing preliminary rounds. Even if it is allowed, please don't do so by allowing them to reap so much points. It's a preliminary round for heaven's sake.

    On the other hand, players like Koo Kien Keat fielded to play for fun (happily clowning around) must surely have a blast (not necessarily grateful for the opportunity to play) playing against Dionisius Rumbaka. This a waste of crucial opportunity (both matches lost under 10 threshold) for other up and coming young players like Zulfadli Zulkifli to enrichen their skills and experience that could surely sharpen their badminton spears to lead the nation in the near future. What a waste. Like I mentioned before in the 'theory of plants applied to badminton', the soil for growing badminton is akin to the experience of playing in a tournament like Thomas Cup. It was wise to finally let Darren and Arif to let them dip their feet into the hot water of TC but what about others? Don't they deserve a chance to play too? Isn't the fact that the match played by KKK was just a squandered opportunity for others sitting at the benches who longed and endeared to play? Heck, if I was the golden boy of a certain under 16 group champion, i'd begged my coach to give me a chance rather than seething with hatred watching KKK had his comedic performance which he will forget once he goes to the bathroom to relieve himself! Well maybe the coaches wanted KKK to run it out and practice his endurance in a men's singles match.

    Other issues like the complete ignorance of flight availability to Macau until BAM realized at the 11th hour, Hendrawan's presence which could have helped and mentor yoyo HH to win, BAM stating that they need more officials and manpower to handle the players' miscellaneous needs but left Arif stranded at the airport without the necessary documentations, only fuels and cements the fact that BAM's vision is indeed myopic. Whether this myopic vision is on the extreme or just in need of a slight fine-tuning with the magic screwdriver is very much debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    cxytdn posted the World Team Ranking on 03-Feb-2012.

    Here is the link;

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ing-2012-02-02
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    thanks... Does BWF themselves publish such a ranking list?

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    There are only 4 singles players and 6 doubles players, max that can participate. Unless they dont bring Hafiz at all, which could mean Msia dont qualify. Bf the tourney, most of us were doubtful of the 2nd MD ability to win a pt since its their 1st time. This time the coaches chose the right young pair.On Hendrawan, I agree,they gave the funny reason that Hendrawan had to stay back & coach the back up. Haiseh, Roslin & other assistant coach cannot do that for 1 week?

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    BWF has an official team ranking, which is different from the one calculated by cxytdn.

    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=18740

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    BWF has an official team ranking, which is different from the one calculated by cxytdn.http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=18740
    I like cxytdn s version because it s more colourful. But the numbers between the two versions are different. Which is correct ?

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    Thumbs up I trust cxytdn's posts more than BWF's news/releases

    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    I like cxytdn s version because it s more colourful. But the numbers between the two versions are different. Which is correct ?
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    You like the colours.

    Knowing how our BCer, cxytdn, follow our Badminton tournaments, I trust cxytdn's posts more than BWF's news/releases.
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    Don't forget, BWF will only use its official ranking for seeding purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    BWF has an official team ranking, which is different from the one calculated by cxytdn.

    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=18740
    That is the World Mixed Team Ranking, nice for Sudirman Cup, but useless for ranking teams for Thomas and Uber Cups.

    As far as I can remember, for Thomas and Uber Cups, the ranking is calculated by summing up the ranking points of the top 3 singles and top 2 doubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakito View Post
    PJB complains because the opportunity to gain points is very much higher than before (even when players lose), not because he does not know the opportunity to do so was always there before, but the generosity of the points that can be earned so easily even if you lose.

    However, on the other side of it is that BWF probably allows this to make a tournament event 'hotter' when it entices high ranking players to participate as it offers much points to reap from. This in turn will boost ticket sales. Sadly, the environment during the Uber Cup finals were lacking in spectators and far more conducive for swatting flies even though the battle between Japan's Eriko and Liu Xin was extremely exciting for me to watch.

    I still think it is unfair to other countries to allow a host nation to reap points just from playing preliminary rounds. Even if it is allowed, please don't do so by allowing them to reap so much points. It's a preliminary round for heaven's sake.

    On the other hand, players like Koo Kien Keat fielded to play for fun (happily clowning around) must surely have a blast (not necessarily grateful for the opportunity to play) playing against Dionisius Rumbaka. This a waste of crucial opportunity (both matches lost under 10 threshold) for other up and coming young players like Zulfadli Zulkifli to enrichen their skills and experience that could surely sharpen their badminton spears to lead the nation in the near future. What a waste. Like I mentioned before in the 'theory of plants applied to badminton', the soil for growing badminton is akin to the experience of playing in a tournament like Thomas Cup. It was wise to finally let Darren and Arif to let them dip their feet into the hot water of TC but what about others? Don't they deserve a chance to play too? Isn't the fact that the match played by KKK was just a squandered opportunity for others sitting at the benches who longed and endeared to play? Heck, if I was the golden boy of a certain under 16 group champion, i'd begged my coach to give me a chance rather than seething with hatred watching KKK had his comedic performance which he will forget once he goes to the bathroom to relieve himself! Well maybe the coaches wanted KKK to run it out and practice his endurance in a men's singles match.

    Other issues like the complete ignorance of flight availability to Macau until BAM realized at the 11th hour, Hendrawan's presence which could have helped and mentor yoyo HH to win, BAM stating that they need more officials and manpower to handle the players' miscellaneous needs but left Arif stranded at the airport without the necessary documentations, only fuels and cements the fact that BAM's vision is indeed myopic. Whether this myopic vision is on the extreme or just in need of a slight fine-tuning with the magic screwdriver is very much debatable.
    MAS was dead serious until they made sure they qualified. For that reason, they could not have brought ZZ to the tournament since there is limit of 10.

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    It is not Asian Team Championships, of that I have no doubt. BAC screwed up somewhere.

    This thread is here only because BWF kept to their antiquated way of providing ranking points for team tournaments (What? A standard 10% of points regardless of win/loss or how many matches played etc.) and treating every team tournament the same.

    That said, I do not have a good suggestion of a way to give ranking points to a player in a team tournament.

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