DRAW of ALL ENGLAND SS Premier 2012

**OneToughBirdie** · 02-24-2012, 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=Miqilin7;1849136]

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

MS - LCW (as usual)
WS - WSX (if she overcomes CSC in round one)
MD - Boe and Mogensen
WD - Neither one of the CHN pairs for some reason
XD - Pedersen and Fischer

You really believe in the jinz thingie...you practically wipe out all CHN top hitters from the podium...one event that CHN would have an almost guarantee winning is WD and your jinz thingie delete them. Other than that, your choices are good too. Even though you leave out picking WD but if any pair wins other the 2 CHN pair, I concede your prediction is right so you don't have to pick the winning pair. We shall see who the winners are.....

**Miqilin7** · 02-24-2012, 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=OneToughBirdie;1849325]

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

You really believe in the jinz thingie...you practically wipe out all CHN top hitters from the podium...one event that CHN would have an almost guarantee winning is WD and your jinz thingie delete them. Other than that, your choices are good too. Even though you leave out picking WD but if any pair wins other the 2 CHN pair, I concede your prediction is right so you don't have to pick the winning pair. We shall see who the winners are.....

Jinx related to Olympics is strongly affecting the Chinese players. The feeling of being champion in All England gives them a lot of pressure or uneasiness when they perform on court in OG. When Lin Dan talked about his first round loss, he disagreed it was one of his bad days and admitted the pressure he faced was too great being a number 1. Furthermore you are entering the tournament as an All England champion, that speaks volume of how much you need to win to justify that position.

His loss has served a good lesson to him and the rest of the Chinese. I am pretty sure most of them would try to avoid getting jinxed. Still it doesn't mean they shouldn't play badly on purpose to give away the titles, they will somehow try their best. It is great if they win it , to fans who are overly concerned about the jinx will have to start worrying then because as a hardcore CHN fan, i look forward to the Olympics. All england can be re-captured in the following years. It isn't going anywhere.

Lee Chong Wei will win it easily, his mental strength has magnified since his "undeserved" victory over Tago. He no longer treats All England as a major tournament difficult to win so it's going to be hard to beat him with such mindset.

I will say for CHN to use this tournament to really pinpoint and identify the players that would become their silent threat or dark horses in London. Players they never face before for instance Carolyn Marin, hey that girl is pretty good, they havent played against her yet, Kevin Cordon, and several others . We and CHN will find out who they should pay attention to when they kick off their preparations for OG

**Miqilin7** · 02-24-2012, 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=OneToughBirdie;1849325]

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

...one event that CHN would have an almost guarantee winning is WD and your jinz thingie delete them

I didn't complete my individual predictions in the last post. There is a new threat emerging from Europe:

Christina Pedersen and Kamillia Rytter-Juhl.

Other pairs who can sort of trouble them are Ha-Kim, Kakiiwa-Fujii, Suetsuna-Maeda..though they always lose..

**pcll99** · 02-24-2012, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

Mixed Doubles - I am going for Pedersen and Fischer. They will win it hands down

Pederson/Fischer vs ZYL/ZN would be most interesting to watch since ZYL/ZN has yet to win against them on European soil. Beside ZYL has to play in WD (probably all the way to the final). It is an uphill battle for ZYL/ZN even though they are WR1 for more than one year now. Hope there will be a repeat of French Open 2011 (at semi final), which was unforgettable (despite not being broadcast by TV or hahasport).

**SantaSCSI** · 02-25-2012, 10:11 AM

We'll just have to wait and see. I think some people over estimate the whole Jinx thing. Sure, they have a bad record in AE-OG, but that doesn't mean that there is suddenly a jinx. Superstition ... .

What I do get is that the pressure is higher when winning the AE and then going to the OG. It is definitely something to take into account, but a Jinx? Nah. It is only yet again another test for the mental fitness. If you win the AE, people will immediately count on you and the feedback will murder you when you lose early.

If LYB gives in to the whole Jinx thing and, for some reason, orders all his top players to WO, they better give the steering wheel to a panda.

**limsy** · 02-25-2012, 10:17 AM

why bother to participate if scare of jinx?hehe
send chen jin,chen long and lin dan is enough

**jpb93** · 02-25-2012, 07:31 PM

Quantifier 1 could possibly be Viktor Axelsen (29) DE 18yr; playing Kenichi Tago (8) JPN 22yr, be a good battle, Viktor has beat THidayat and pushed PGade to 3 sets, could this be a potential upset for Tago? Viktor is improving all the time, I think both are real contenders for next Olympics 2016 and future top 5 players in the world..

**jpb93** · 02-25-2012, 07:35 PM

*Qualifier

**Miqilin7** · 02-26-2012, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by jpb93

*Qualifier

Axelsen is currently ranked 29th in the world, if you remove additional players from countries that are not going to qualify for Olympics in London, by right he still has a chance to break into top 16.

I think he should try his best to qualify, it would be good preparation for his Rio 2016 as soon as he peaks. So Dannish badminton must not always focus on Gade's agenda only, he will surely qualify but what about their plans for Rio ?

**jpb93** · 02-26-2012, 04:17 AM

Don't think he will be able to qualify this year 15,000 points of 2nd Denmark player to qualify J.Orgonsen.. But I do see him taking a medal in Rio, should be a good match between Tago and Viktor

**Tommy Susanto** · 03-03-2012, 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=Miqilin7;1849374]

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

Jinx related to Olympics is strongly affecting the Chinese players. The feeling of being champion in All England gives them a lot of pressure or uneasiness when they perform on court in OG. When Lin Dan talked about his first round loss, he disagreed it was one of his bad days and admitted the pressure he faced was too great being a number 1. Furthermore you are entering the tournament as an All England champion, that speaks volume of how much you need to win to justify that position.

His loss has served a good lesson to him and the rest of the Chinese. I am pretty sure most of them would try to avoid getting jinxed. Still it doesn't mean they shouldn't play badly on purpose to give away the titles, they will somehow try their best. It is great if they win it , to fans who are overly concerned about the jinx will have to start worrying then because as a hardcore CHN fan, i look forward to the Olympics. All england can be re-captured in the following years. It isn't going anywhere.

Lee Chong Wei will win it easily, his mental strength has magnified since his "undeserved" victory over Tago. He no longer treats All England as a major tournament difficult to win so it's going to be hard to beat him with such mindset.

I will say for CHN to use this tournament to really pinpoint and identify the players that would become their silent threat or dark horses in London. Players they never face before for instance Carolyn Marin, hey that girl is pretty good, they havent played against her yet, Kevin Cordon, and several others . We and CHN will find out who they should pay attention to when they kick off their preparations for OG

Who the hell are you to say deserved or not?! You(s) are simply not good enough like many of you here in the forum to pass judgement. Be professional when you do post, make it count! Go get a life, i hope you(s) have a life other than posting necessary comments only to discredit yourself!

**pjswift** · 03-04-2012, 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=Tommy Susanto;1853437]

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

Who the hell are you to say deserved or not?! You(s) are simply not good enough like many of you here in the forum to pass judgement. Be professional when you do post, make it count! Go get a life, i hope you(s) have a life other than posting necessary comments only to discredit yourself!

Why can t OTB pass judgement like he did? That is his opinion and there is no right or wrong opinion. Does his opinion carry so much weight that it will discredit LCW s maiden AE title? Of course not. Most BCers are intelligent enough to judge for themselves. His opinion just reflects his lack of confidence and belief in LCW and he s a 100% Team CHN worshipper. What s wrong with that? My opinion will be the opposite. CHN s walkovers indicate they are not good enough to win clean most of the time and Team CHN is overrated. What s your (professional ) opinion? It will be good to know.

**AlanY** · 03-04-2012, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Tommy Susanto

Who the hell are you to say deserved or not?! You(s) are simply not good enough like many of you here in the forum to pass judgement. Be professional when you do post, make it count! Go get a life, i hope you(s) have a life other than posting necessary comments only to discredit yourself!

damn! Where is that 'don't like and bugger off' button?

**Miqilin7** · 03-04-2012, 03:18 AM

[QUOTE=Tommy Susanto;1853437]

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

Who the hell are you to say deserved or not?! You(s) are simply not good enough like many of you here in the forum to pass judgement. Be professional when you do post, make it count! Go get a life, i hope you(s) have a life other than posting necessary comments only to discredit yourself!

Come on mate, watch the final again and you dont need to be a professional to tell Lee Chong Wei was freaked out when playing against Tago.

Had Tago won the second set, there's a likelihood he will go on to win because Lee Chong Wei at that time doesn't have what it takes to be a world beater, only a SS winner. But hey, the call made him took the title, a win is a win. Kudos to him but terrible for Tago because he literally got away with murder.

That game was the turning point as to what has transpired today? I dare you to answer this !

If Lee Chong Wei lost that day to Tago, he would produce the same form today. I can courageously tell you in the face. NO!

Hey i am entitled to my own opinion and some BCers are right..I am Team CHN fan but anti-LYB ..It's a pity we have to play dirty to win but get this right, Lin Dan never played dirty in the all england and world championship. He won them fair and square without any help. instead he helped others by giving away his titles.

**pjswift** · 03-04-2012, 10:38 AM

[QUOTE=Miqilin7;1853485]

Originally Posted by Tommy Susanto

Come on mate, watch the final again and you dont need to be a professional to tell Lee Chong Wei was freaked out when playing against Tago. Had Tago won the second set, there's a likelihood he will go on to win because Lee Chong Wei at that time doesn't have what it takes to be a world beater, only a SS winner. But hey, the call made him took the title, a win is a win. Kudos to him but terrible for Tago because he literally got away with murder.That game was the turning point as to what has transpired today? I dare you to answer this !If Lee Chong Wei lost that day to Tago, he would produce the same form today. I can courageously tell you in the face. NO! Hey i am entitled to my own opinion and some BCers are right..I am Team CHN fan but anti-LYB ..It's a pity we have to play dirty to win but get this right, Lin Dan never played dirty in the all england and world championship. He won them fair and square without any help. instead he helped others by giving away his titles.

Do the research again. LD failed to win AG, OG and WC until he was helped by his three teammates BCL, CH and CJ to lift his first WC title. In fact, BCL was in the zone, (after defeating LCW for the first time?) and when he reached the score of 17, had to wait for LD to catch up, so he could lose to LD because LD needed the WC breakthrough...you know how many times LD had failed on his own to win AG, OG and WC?

**Miqilin7** · 03-04-2012, 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=pjswift;1853715]

Originally Posted by Miqilin7

Do the research again. LD failed to win AG, OG and WC until he was helped by his three teammates BCL, CH and CJ to lift his first WC title. In fact, BCL was in the zone, (after defeating LCW for the first time?) and when he reached the score of 17, had to wait for LD to catch up, so he could lose to LD because LD needed the WC breakthrough...you know how many times LD had failed on his own to win AG, OG and WC?

I did and I will repeat it the second time. Lin Dan's Olympic was definitely controversial because Chen Jin obviously gave him a free pass to beat Lee Chong Wei in a good condition.

And No Lin Dan never relied on any footsoldier to win all the World Championships and Asian Games

Fact 1 presented:

WC 2006: Lin Dan fought like a bi tch against Chen Hong in the semis, and then Bao Chunlai in the final...It wouldnt make any sense if all these are orchestrated just to let Lin Dan lift the crown. It was an all Chinese final, LYB by no means has no right to decide who takes the title or not. Lin Dan won this far and square. For those who accused Lin Dan of winning because Taufik and Lee Chong Wei were absent, too bad....they just lost in the early round. sulk it up. I could say Taufik's 2004 OG was fluke as well if that's the case because he didnt face any Chinese players but I wont do so

Back to Lin Dan

WC 2007: Taufik crashed out against Anup Sridhar (in form) who pulled the biggest upset of the tournament. Lee Chong Wei played like an idiot against Sony and received the biggest humiliation of his life. What was Lin Dan doing again ? He beat Anup Sridhar and Sony to win the title, the players that spoiled the favourites' hope. Where did the foul play happen ?

WC 2009 : Lin Dan did not face any Chinese until the final. He beat Peter Gade, and oh wait, guess who ? IT'S SONY again who gave Lee Chong Wei a second slap in the face and then faced Chen Jin in the final. PLEASE where do you get the idea that Chen Jin could stand a chance against Lin Dan ? Unless he got his leg cut off. Again another well deserved victory by Lin Dan

WC2011 and Asiad 2010: I dont recall Lin Dan facing any chinese opponents. So yea, whoever claimed he dont deserve to win this title can just stfu.

The above proves how credible Lin Dan is as a legend. Enough said

**rogerv2** · 03-05-2012, 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=Miqilin7;1853485]

Originally Posted by Tommy Susanto

Come on mate, watch the final again and you dont need to be a professional to tell Lee Chong Wei was freaked out when playing against Tago.

Had Tago won the second set, there's a likelihood he will go on to win because Lee Chong Wei at that time doesn't have what it takes to be a world beater, only a SS winner. But hey, the call made him took the title, a win is a win. Kudos to him but terrible for Tago because he literally got away with murder.

That game was the turning point as to what has transpired today? I dare you to answer this !

If Lee Chong Wei lost that day to Tago, he would produce the same form today. I can courageously tell you in the face. NO!

Hey i am entitled to my own opinion and some BCers are right..I am Team CHN fan but anti-LYB ..It's a pity we have to play dirty to win but get this right, Lin Dan never played dirty in the all england and world championship. He won them fair and square without any help. instead he helped others by giving away his titles.

Your argument would be more credible if Tago has won at least once against LCW. Too many "if" statements, predicting Tago's win when in most likelihood LCW would have won it.

Anyway LCW lost the Olympics and came back stronger. I really wonder why some think his mind is so fragile, you dont enter the finals of 11 consecutive tournaments with this kind of handicap.