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    sautom88 is right. guy in the vid looks like he's swatting butterflies in the park. Get behind the bird and throw your body into it as hard as you can.

    I hesitate to post a vid of myself here but whatever... this video illustrates exactly what I mean (you guys get to witness the moment I tore something in my wrist , haven't been able to smash hard since ).


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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    yes. aggression is good.but also be aware that this guy is pretty old and not so fit as FHF/JJS... haha.
    If this guy is old, then what does that mean for the rest of us old fogeys? . Anyways please check out my suggestions from previous page, including aggression and etc.
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...32#post1862632

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    this is one of the situation that coaching would really help, even if you hire 1-2 hours with him just for him to stand next to you showin gthe correct techique. What thejym wrote is the closest description ,

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    loose grip , and squeeze on impact __________ Relax your wrist _______keep it simple____________it should be one smooth action ______footwork and body rotation is not there ____________dont force it _______________on impact concentration that power generated from arm, wrist upper body there are videos on youtube that you can use to aid your techique

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    A few more things to add to my post on the previous page...

    Spefically, he needs to further time compress and accelerate his swing and really explode into the strike while falling forward into the bird to maximize weight and power transfer. He also needs to rotate his body more into the shot... remember it's "hip, hit, hooray", ie. from the side on preparation position, hip leads first, then torso, then shoulder, then the upper arm as what thejym said.

    The action is very similar to throwing a pebble, albeit downwards for the smashing action. If you want to break down the smash action, just remember how you throw.

    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Finally got a chance to view the video (i was on iphone all day). thejym has nicely broken down the shoulder and forearm technique.

    I would also suggest that the feeder not feed the shots so far to the baseline (as seen in the video), so that this "fella" can concentrate on smashing first and not have to worry about footwork yet in getting to behind the bird. When the smash technique improves, then the feeds can go to baseline, but we all know that a smash from baseline is not gonna be a kill shot.

    I only have a few more things to add...

    1. Explosiveness and acceleration
    The swing has to explode and accelerate into the bird with maximum velocity at strike( and a bit after). It is not a constant velocity affair. This fella must feel the racket head moving faster and faster into the shot ending with a swish that is as high pitched as possible.


    2. Aggressive mindset
    In order to get more power, as some others have mentioned, this person needs to think and feel more aggressive. Imagine your opponent has just dissed your mom! That should get the adrenaline flowing in the blood. Say it with me: adrenaline is good... it gives more power.


    3. Eccentric contractions and proximal to distal transfer of power
    I learned this concept from kenzo, who hasn't posted in the last half a year, but I must credit him here. Essentially you need to prestretch ie. preload your muscles for max speed and power of contraction. Just like why we do the split step. And also just like the split step, in order for it to be effective, this has to be done at the right moment: not too soon and not too late, otherwise the stored energy is wasted. In the winding up side-on preparation, the muscles in the torso, shoulder, upper arm, forearm, (and those involved in controlling the wrist and fingers), all undergo preload and energy release in sequence. Actually, it starts in the quads first, then the pelvis/hip > torso > shoulder > upper arm > forearm > wrist > fingers. And you should be able to feel the power transfer from one joint to another in sequence from proximally to distally all the way to the racket head. In essence, your pelvis all the way to your fingers and racket should feel like a "whip".


    4. Weight transfer
    For that last little bit of power, this person needs to "lean into" the shot with his body weight at strike. He can't be falling backwards away from the bird if he wants power. It just means that he has to have faster footwork to get behind the shuttle earlier.



    For a video, please refer to this youtube video "Fu Haifeng teaches how to smash". The super slow mo part is in the middle of the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6qFJoySf8 (The only part missing is no one has dissed his mom yet! )

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    thanks all. there are a lot of good feedback and i am still trying to digest all the information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    thanks all. there are a lot of good feedback and i am still trying to digest all the information!
    ah, now we know who that person is !

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    Good luck to this bloke!

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    how much power does this guy needs , for a club player , his smashes would be pretty lethal (

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staiger1 View Post
    how much power does this guy needs , for a club player , his smashes would be pretty lethal (
    when it comes to power. there is always more and more and more. haha.

    the fella was at the gym last night but was too engrossed into his games and didn't get much time to train. i will take more videos of him next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staiger1 View Post
    how much power does this guy needs , for a club player , his smashes would be pretty lethal (
    At the places I play, its no mercy out there... we have power and aim specifically at the chest, racket shoulder and hip, or between the two opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    ... the fella was at the gym last night but was too engrossed into his games and didn't get much time to train. i will take more videos of him next time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Staiger1 View Post
    ... even if you hire 1-2 hours with him just for him to stand next to you showin gthe correct techique. What thejym wrote is the closest description ,
    I want to see that video!

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    In Southern California it's completely the opposite. If you're more skilled than your opponents, you run them until they cramp, you don't smash much at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    At the places I play, its no mercy out there... we have power and aim specifically at the chest, racket shoulder and hip, or between the two opponents.

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    my guess is

    this player is playing a casual game n doesnt want push more..

    its his choice...no rite or wrong..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    In Southern California it's completely the opposite. If you're more skilled than your opponents, you run them until they cramp, you don't smash much at all.
    Yes , in singles . But in doubles especially MD it is all about getting that attacking play and winning the point , You need sufficient power in the smash , but placement and angle are as vital . Also after hitting the smash , it is important to get into good position for the next shot . Therefore , most players would only hit a smash with sufficient power to trouble the opponent and moving readily for next shot .

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    His motion is not that of a whip, but more like a stick hitting a fly.
    He needs to relax his whole upper body and think of it more like a whip.
    He needs to hit the shuttle more infront of him than right above him.
    He needs to raise his non racquet arm in a straight line to the racquet arm when hitting.
    He needs to work on his timing of the flexion of his pronation.

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    kwun, this is an excellent thread!!!

    i hope there is a video thread on front court (for double) as well.

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