VIDEO: what's wrong with this smash?

**Nauroa** · 03-14-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by urameatball

change the racket and string.
that's the solution for most people on this forum.

And yet, your are the first one to mention it in this thread.

**amleto** · 03-14-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by ants

I believe she think too much in that video. Sometimes you tend to be to conscious when there is a camera around.

I agree

I just showed video for example purposes - You can see the difference even if she does it 'sub optimally' as well.

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by pcll99

grip and wrist not loose enough.

try these two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNVC5PVJyPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVo73804TQM

yeah. why doesn't it look like those!!

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by raymond

Is this a test?

To me, he seems to be slicing his shots, quite a bit.

but there seems to decent pronation. maybe i will take a video of him from the front next time.

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by sautom88

Guys, he is not even smashing w/ full power n the impact sound is good. I will not want to be on the other side of the net when he is going all out for a power smash.

he was trying the hardest! maybe the major weakness is he is weak?

the sound is ok. but it sounds much better on the recording than on real life. the interpretation via the microphone is a bit deceiving.

the biggest issue is that the smash don't have the explosiveness that a proper smash should.

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 12:40 PM

guys, this is a serious question.

while overall most things looks ok, but the power delivery is just not there. the positioning/contact can be improve, i also notice comparing to the pro video is that the pro has a much more pronounced forearm movement and much more exaggerated pronation.

the overall posture just look awkward!

next time i will video from the front and see if that reveals anything.

**visor** · 03-14-2012, 01:28 PM

He needs to get a VTZF and fer shure he's gonna smash with 19kgf power!

**Tactim** · 03-14-2012, 01:44 PM

Oh that's brilliant =p visor, you got a huge chuckle out of me on that =p!

But yeah Kwun, I agree with the others here in that it really seems to be the contact point most of the time.

In addition to taking the shuttle right above him, that doesn't allow him to put his body weight behind the shuttle during his body rotation. Otherwise his form seems to be pretty good.

**Yuzo64** · 03-14-2012, 02:44 PM

I am no coach, but I'd like to point out something related to the contact point and awkward posture already mentioned.

Overall, I'd say his general attitude is wrong, even though the technique aspect is right : his body is too high and his upper body unbalanced and bent forward as he smashes.
Probably a side effect of trying too hard to reach upwards and hitting at the highest point possible.

I'd advise him to try and keep a more "compact" stance, by linking all his movements together and lowering his center of gravity. SYnchronize lower and upper body, using dynamic movement.

Stay low throughout your shot as you step into it, maybe it will put some pieces of the puzzle together as it did for me.

Hope i'm clear and not saying too much crap

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Yuzo64

I am no coach, but I'd like to point out something related to the contact point and awkward posture already mentioned.

Overall, I'd say his general attitude is wrong, even though the technique aspect is right : his body is too high and his upper body unbalanced and bent forward as he smashes.
Probably a side effect of trying too hard to reach upwards and hitting at the highest point possible.

I'd advise him to try and keep a more "compact" stance, by linking all his movements together and lowering his center of gravity. SYnchronize lower and upper body, using dynamic movement.

Stay low throughout your shot as you step into it, maybe it will put some pieces of the puzzle together as it did for me.

thanks. i do see that there is something wrong with the footwork and preparation, but unable to pinpoint exactly what it is.

***kwun*** · 03-14-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by urameatball

change the racket and string.
that's the solution for most people on this forum.

this guy probably have more racket and strings than most people in this forum...

but i think the problem is elsewhere...

**OhSearsTower** · 03-14-2012, 05:25 PM

i think his fault is to not own a VT80 or zslash

edit: guess i was too late

**sautom88** · 03-14-2012, 10:10 PM

I know it is a serious question, but there is not much to improve for him unless he is competing internationally. The impact point is between 12.30 to 1 o'clock which is generally good/decent and maybe there is a slight slice on the impact. Maybe off by a few degrees but still acceptable because only the pros have 90-95% consistency in power delivery to the shuttlecock.

For him to improve his smashing he should hire a GOOD professional coach and get advice. Whereas my advice is not to worry about the power of his smash, it is accuracy and placement (direction n angle) that matters more in today's games. Sometimes smashes are played to create openings, not necessarily the kill shot. In doubles, often the smashes are followed by front player intercepting the returns.

Kwun, why won't you answer my question on WHO is the guy?

**sautom88** · 03-14-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by kwun

this guy probably have more racket and strings than most people in this forum...

but i think the problem is elsewhere...

See, this guy owns a lot of badminton equipment. Only true badminton lover owns equipments like that ,like our admin boss KWUN.

**sautom88** · 03-14-2012, 10:48 PM

Ok, Ok. Just my 2cents.

Coach Lee Jae Bok said that it does not have to be at it's highest point at impact, it is better to be a little lower (thus at 1 o'clock position). Also, raise yr elbow a little bit and point it directly opposite the direction of the smash. See his video on power smashing on youtube.

I am also learning how to smash harder. Many people says my smashes are often too weak or too flat.

**DinkAlot** · 03-14-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by kwun

this guy has a weak smash. can you tell why?

Why? Why doesn't matter because there's no need. Panda will take this "guy" because he has skill and bet they can beat over 80% of the members on this Board.

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**thejym** · 03-14-2012, 11:04 PM

You will notice a significant improvement in power if you keep your arm "folded in" for a longer period of time before extending your forearm (that is, keep the angle formed between forearm and upper arm small as you "lick your elbow"). Basically, you need to give your forearm more distance to extend so that it can achieve a greater speed.

Try this exercise: Cover your ear with your palm, point your elbow back, then bring your elbow forward as you try to lick it. Now that your elbow is in front of you, continue the momentum and imagine karate chopping a brick with your elbow. This downward pulling of the elbow has some power too. The instant you feel you are able to pull your elbow downwards in a chopping motion, start extending your forearm.

Your technique has improved significantly from before, and you can see that people are commenting on the "effortlessness" of the swing. This is good. At a certain point, to achieve more power you need to strengthen your entire body and work on arm explosiveness in a similar manner that you would do squat jumps for leg explosiveness.

Some of the other points mentioned in this thread hold true as well, but you'll feel a bigger difference if you try out what I just mentioned. One thing at a time