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    Thank you Kwun, very nice pictures you got here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksmok View Post
    thanks kwan,
    i didnt noticed abt the non-adjustable condition of prince machine....
    how abt gosen GM08EX, any idea abt this machine
    btw, which site shld i refer to, for a better bargain of machine....
    as this gosen machine will cost me abt RM 20k (in malaysia)
    tq
    that looks like a nice machine. also look for the Alpha Ghost which i believe share the same turntable as the Gosen, and not surprising that they are both made by Exthree/Poreex.

    the electronic do look different and that's very hard to tell if they are any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    btw, does anyone put oil on the base clamp track? mine seems a bit dry and the sound is a bit scratchy. i wiped a layer of oil on it and it seems smoother though.

    too bad i don't think it will ever get as smooth as the ES5Protech.
    I wipe it with some WD40 on a napkin. Cleans dirt off too

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    yes. i didn't do anything specific to compensate for the slant. i guess it is possible to bend that 1/4" Aluminum plate. but Aluminum don't bend very well and also the slant seems very minor.

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    Talk to the guys at Paragon Mechanical, they built the Stands for BBC and CBA They do sheet metal fabrication and like to play badminton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakinami View Post
    I wipe it with some WD40 on a napkin. Cleans dirt off too
    is that the secret to why the Protech is so buttery smooth.

    will butter work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakinami View Post
    Talk to the guys at Paragon Mechanical, they built the Stands for BBC and CBA They do sheet metal fabrication and like to play badminton.
    i think it is alright. the little bit of slant is no big deal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    totally easy after adjusting clamps. i think the setting for the WISE gripper was a bit too tight though as it marred the string at some locations. but bleh. who cares, it is only tennis. but the WISE did get its highest workout ever, 57.5lbs. string that racketsupply chose for me was Babolat Addiction 17g. i am clueless about tennis string but i looked and it seems to be pretty decent review.


    now, onto my new MX80, SW35, and UltraPro... hehe.
    That's why I dont see you much, been hanging out there.... =)
    Did you get a good price? =)

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    for reference, this is DarthHowie's (PeteLSD's old) Gamma 6004.

    with the WISE Gamma adapter, the gripper is sitting at the racket head plane which is good for pulling but won't have 360 rotation.

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    without the WISE Gamma adapter, the gripper sits at the same height as my Gamma which means even though they revised the tensioner bar, they didn't change its height relative to the turntable.

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    It would be interesting to compare the older generation of 6004 versus the newest one. I wonder if the internals of both machines have some minor differences.

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    8 rackets so far on the Gamma. i think i am starting to understand the flow with fixed clamps now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete LSD View Post
    It would be interesting to compare the older generation of 6004 versus the newest one. I wonder if the internals of both machines have some minor differences.
    aside from the aforementioned differences, the rest looks the same to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    8 rackets so far on the Gamma. i think i am starting to understand the flow with fixed clamps now.
    Honestly I use exclusively fixed clamps now...hardly ever go to my flying clamp these days, unless i go over 30lbs on a racket. Though slower but I think it clamps much better than flying clamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redskins009 View Post
    Honestly I use exclusively fixed clamps now...hardly ever go to my flying clamp these days, unless i go over 30lbs on a racket. Though slower but I think it clamps much better than flying clamps.
    the main part of my understanding is how to work the fixed clamp that make them nearly as fast as flying clamps.

    so far, i find that with fixed clamps, it requires reaching under the racket to get to them, and the key issue is from where i reach under as there are other things like the posts and the other clamp blocking the access.

    also the other part is how to disengage and re-engage them. this one i find that we need two hands. quickly dis-engage base and clamp, and then re-engage clamp and base. 2 hands seems to be the key for speed and i just need to put that action in muscle memory by practicing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    also the other part is how to disengage and re-engage them. this one i find that we need two hands. quickly dis-engage base and clamp, and then re-engage clamp and base. 2 hands seems to be the key for speed and i just need to put that action in muscle memory by practicing more.
    This is where the Yonex (and Babolat) clamps shine. The stems are female, so you can move the whole clamp by holding the stem, and they open automatically if dropped on the base to release the button. Shame they cost more than most decent machines.

    I've toyed with trying to work the standard clamps with one hand, but since I got the WISE the need has diminshed; I can move my hands to the "ready" position while the tension is being pulled (there's a good three seconds there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    This is where the Yonex (and Babolat) clamps shine. The stems are female, so you can move the whole clamp by holding the stem, and they open automatically if dropped on the base to release the button. Shame they cost more than most decent machines.

    I've toyed with trying to work the standard clamps with one hand, but since I got the WISE the need has diminshed; I can move my hands to the "ready" position while the tension is being pulled (there's a good three seconds there).
    i haven't played with the Victor/Exthree/Porex base clamps for a while now. i wonder if they are any better than Gamma.

    no. i am not thinking about mods one week after i get the machine. really...

    there is just no comparison to the Yonex/Toyo clamps/bases. their action is super light weight, smooth as butter and holds like a rock. i guess one gets what you paid for.

    gonna go visit AK and will be hesitant to play with the ES5Pro/tech again. it will be tough to have just bought a Porsche only to then sit in a Ferrari. but i am sure the temptation will be hard to resist.

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    Okay my badminton support mount came and I love it. It fits perfectly with the racket and the height, to the point I decided to get another one for the 6' position as well just because it will be lower and easier to work with and to clamp and so on for my Gamma 5003 machine.

    Also, I am in the process of cutting out some aluminum and making up my own mount for the 5003 due to the height issue of the Gamma clamp on the wise as discussed here. What I am doing is I will be machining out my own piece of mount that will lower be about 1 inch lower than the current Gamma mount so that way the racket shoudl pass under the machine to give me 360 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redskins009 View Post
    Okay my badminton support mount came and I love it. It fits perfectly with the racket and the height, to the point I decided to get another one for the 6' position as well just because it will be lower and easier to work with and to clamp and so on for my Gamma 5003 machine.
    not fair!!! i still haven't gotten mine. i need to go check with my supplier!!

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