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    Question Shoulder pain from high backhand clear / smashs

    Hi I am sorry if this is the nth thread on shoulder pain but I am merely describing some pain not a injury and my own experiences.

    Basically, I have started playing more singles lately (I previously played doubles exclusively which does not require backhand clears) and I come home and find that my shoulder hurts if I repeat the same motion- from the raised elbow to extending my arm and at the same time supinating my forearm. The pain appears to be near my rotator cuff, on top of the deltoid muscle. The pain usually goes away the next day as I am still under 30.

    I wonder if this is something wrong with my technique? Moreover, should I be concerned about the damage getting worse? I will be grateful if people can share past experiences and what they did to prevent / heal injury.

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    what racket are you using for singles?

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    Victor artery tec 99 classic, VS850 at 24lbs. Note I have been using it for doubles before I switched to RKEP pro9000, and I never had the same kind of shoulder problems

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    Singles require a head heavier racket with flexier shaft. Speed here is not as important as head momentum especially if you want effortless clears from baseline to baseline.

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    Also make sure you watch some videos of pros doing this stroke, eg zhao jianhua's coaching series or taufik hidayat slow mo on YouTube. Make sure you get behind the bird and whip your arm loosely striking the bird when it's about half a foot "behind" you, ie between you and the net. Google on the forum re backhand clears and you'll see previous discussions.

    This is a good one from Paul Stewart.
    http://badminton-coach.co.uk/524/7-c...-correct-them/

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Singles require a head heavier racket with flexier shaft. Speed here is not as important as head momentum especially if you want effortless clears from baseline to baseline.
    Although there are plenty of pro singles players using stiff rackets, I will agree with you that flexier shafts may be better for me on clears, especially backhand as I wouldn't need to strain my arm as much to generated explosive power. What do you suggest? MX60? I have a Gosen 6900 but it is not headheavy

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    I see a thread on shoulder pains that describes my exact condition, too bad it seems to be a common problem but very difficult to heal. I guess I have to wait a while before playing again to avoid aggravating the injury.

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    Most likely your technique. Backhand clear requires perfect technique and timing to execute properly, without forcing it. Just watch taufik hidayat or anyone at your club who has an effortless backhand stroke.

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    Do you have a big follow through? Your shoulder pain could have result from trying too hard to get that power.

    If you have the habit of catching the shuttle low (with bended elbow), then you are likely to use more shoulder muscle to generate rotary power. Again, trying too hard to get that power, you also get a big follow through and could have over-stretch your shoulder muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_ View Post
    Do you have a big follow through? Your shoulder pain could have result from trying too hard to get that power.

    If you have the habit of catching the shuttle low (with bended elbow), then you are likely to use more shoulder muscle to generate rotary power. Again, trying too hard to get that power, you also get a big follow through and could have over-stretch your shoulder muscle.
    Thanks for the advice, I think the problem maybe a combination of not turning my wrist enough, not relaxed enough, hitting the shuttle too low, and trying too hard for shuttles that are already behind me. But no, I don't have a big follow through. I don't think you are supposed to straighten the elbow though, as it leads to elbow injuries. I just have not found the optimal angle yet.

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    could b technique

    could b racket

    could b string tension

    as long u r ok... thats...good.

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    Just check out this animated gif of LCW if you want the perfect technique! http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...43#post1665243

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    Here, I've attached it:


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    thank, I actually heeded your advice and checked them out. But if you need confirmation...

    I guess Taufik is too much to ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulless View Post
    thank, I actually heeded your advice and checked them out. But if you need confirmation...

    I guess Taufik is too much to ask
    No problem.

    Taufik backhand smash...


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    Lol, I was trying to say that I probably will never be able to replicate Taufik, the man is a f*cking genius, so I wouldn't bother with the vid you just posted.

    Okay, seriously, I have been planting waay too early, before I make the hit, so all the stress is on my shoulder. Thanks for the advice.

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    Yeah, you must plant your racket foot just a split second before you strike the bird, so that you're pushing up and supporting your upper body and shoulder at strike. Whatever you do, don't force the stroke or else you'll get shoulder pain.

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