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    Arrow Some here at BC are not really for Badminton as a sport

    Quote Originally Posted by OhSearsTower View Post
    i dont think it adds anything to the sport if women are forced to wear makeup while playing a competetive match wtf
    it rather hurts the sport if ppl gonna find out it is a must for them
    just image "a little red on the lips" in a pale face - your taste is awfully bad lol

    i must think of the rhythm sportgymnastic women and gymnastics womes who look so ridicolous.
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    Don't get so upset.

    Some here at BC are not really for Badminton as a sport, but just following it as an entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhSearsTower View Post
    i think you have way wrong approaches there

    i dont think it adds anything to the sport if women are forced to wear makeup while playing a competetive match wtf
    it rather hurts the sport if ppl gonna find out it is a must for them
    just image "a little red on the lips" in a pale face - your taste is awfully bad lol

    i must think of the rhythm sportgymnastic women and gymnastics womes who look so ridicolous

    also the service rules is no problem ate all
    you really got the wrong approaches there in my opinion..
    Haha ... Just that we differ in taste and experience. That's something difficult to argue with.

    Remember we are trying to uplift the image of badminton. It is like selling a service or product to attract an audience and make it more appealing.

    I never said making-up should be made compulsory for lady badminton players. Experience has shown that anything which is forced will not likely gain full acceptance. Some ladies are naturally beautiful and if a make-up can help enhance their appearance and image, what's wrong with that?

    I would say Sports is entertainment and people pay to watch the performance of players in all sorts of sports. The better organised and presented the sport, the better reception it is
    likely to receive.

    In the LOG, apart from gymnastics, synchronized swimming has been well received everywhere. Why? Just look at how the ladies are presented and the glittering costumes they adorn. Not only are their beautiful skills on display, they also have entertainment value.

    Can't blame you if you disagree...haha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post


    I would say that in general the dressing for both the men and women players has improved quite a bit and is a great departure from the completely white attire in days of old. Equpment suppliers such as Yonex, Li Ning, Victor, etc, are now competing for fashion and design to gain mileage for themselves. But players can do more individually to "spruce up" their own image whether on hairstyles, acceptable accessories such as watches or neck chains, tatoos, and "waterproof" makeup especially for the ladies.

    Which reminds me that our only Singaporean WS Olympian was depicted on TV as a sickly pale face, unfit for an athlete. Some colour on the face and a little red on the lips will make a world of a difference.

    And I'm always baffled why Taiwan's tiny Cheng seemingly prefers baggy Bermudas that almost covers her entire lower half body.

    Therefore it is the responsibility of not only the BWF to constantly try to upgrade the image of badminton but also those of players, coaches, equipment suppliers and others connected with the game.
    In badminton, the accessories are not part of the points like gymnastics or syncro swimming. They already have a lot to do in their preparations, make up & all will only add to the 'work'. I remember a WS from lesser known country who put on mascara while she was playing in Uber Cup. BCers were commenting on how vain she was & how unpractical it is, more so since the mascara was smearing, she wanted to play badminton or be model.

    As far as I know, waterproof make up is not sweat proof. With all the jumping & running around for 30 to 45 min, at the end it might smear, plus long term it's not good for the skin. It doesnt make practical sense to buy expensive waterproof make-up just to look good while playing since it's not part of the marks/points.
    That's why you would not see ladies recommending this cos we know how troublesome it is to put on make up, how much time and money needed

    I fully agree with Taiwan Cheng wearing baggy bermudas, it's much more comfortable and does not restrict movement.

    This kind of ways might attract viewers but not necessarily will make badminton more popular.
    If there is representative from Western countries participating, and winning some titles, then will make it more popular
    Last edited by eaglehelang; 08-11-2012 at 09:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    ... I remember a WS from lesser known country who put on mascara while she was playing in Uber Cup. BCers were commenting on how vain she was & how unpractical it is, more so since the mascara was smearing, she wanted to play badminton or be model. ...
    It's not only females that are vain! At the national Canadian junior tournament, I remember seeing a men's doubles team come into the bathroom just before their game for no other purpose than to stare in the mirror and tease their hair into just the right way.

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    You know what ?...event in my country Indonesia, badminton had been treaten discriminated.
    As you know Indonesia is one of the best country that have a lot of badminton players, but still not the most priority sport for government.
    Lucky we Indonesia have a few of Foundation that have supported Badminton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    You know what ?...event in my country Indonesia, badminton had been treaten discriminated.
    As you know Indonesia is one of the best country that have a lot of badminton players, but still not the most priority sport for government.
    Lucky we Indonesia have a few of Foundation that have supported Badminton.
    What is the priority sport for the Indonesia government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    What is the priority sport for the Indonesia government?
    Football is the most popular sport in Indonesia because obviously it is a cheaper sport compared to badminton. I don't think there is a single sport that is placed in a higher priority by the government.

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    My thought is because you really need some training/coaching to understand and play the game in the right way and you really need to put effort and time to do it(footwork, stroke, position)

    I think that turns people away.
    the prize of winning a competition is nothing compares to other sports and I believe the time spent on training to win the competition should no less than other sports!

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    @craigandy : Football
    @kermitvselmo : yes, you're right.Football is the most famous in Indonesia, and i hate that ...but i disagree with you football cheaper than badminton. We will discuss about this later and you "almost" right single sport will not be in higher priority for many countries, but i thought not its the only reason..
    football famous because involved a lot of money in there, Sponsors get customers because many spectators will see their products and buy, government get big taxes from them, television gets advertise, football federation get money from football club and competition and spectators can gamble to get money, so everyone happy

    @Theseed :i believe football training as harder as badminton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    @craigandy : Football
    @kermitvselmo : yes, you're right.Football is the most famous in Indonesia, and i hate that ...but i disagree with you football cheaper than badminton. We will discuss about this later and you "almost" right single sport will not be in higher priority for many countries, but i thought not its the only reason..
    football famous because involved a lot of money in there, Sponsors get customers because many spectators will see their products and buy, government get big taxes from them, television gets advertise, football federation get money from football club and competition and spectators can gamble to get money, so everyone happy

    @Theseed :i believe football training as harder as badminton
    I thought badminton in Indonesia was popular enough for all the above to happen? (large crowds, sponsors, tv coverage, big revenues, gambling). Is it true that in Indonesia football has always been rated higher/more popular than badminton? thanks

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    On TV, every country essentially has a domestic version of the Olympics. From what I watched, the BBC only showed a WS game between Australia and another woman (sorry, I don't remember). Nothing else. German TV showed German players only. Badminton was shown on the Internet only in the US. Pretty much a side sport on TV in the west. Some consider it a status similar to archery.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Yes indeed the London Olympics have opened the eyes of many to this "garden/backyard" game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauci View Post
    On TV, every country essentially has a domestic version of the Olympics. From what I watched, the BBC only showed a WS game between Australia and another woman (sorry, I don't remember). Nothing else. German TV showed German players only. Badminton was shown on the Internet only in the US. Pretty much a side sport on TV in the west. Some consider it a status similar to archery.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    BBC showed nearly every match live, they had a red button channel that showed some, a bit on bbc3 and two of the BBC Olympic channels were dedicated to badminton for the duration of every session.

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    Arrow Most countries will only televise events in which they are strong in

    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    BBC showed nearly every match live, they had a red button channel that showed some, a bit on bbc3 and two of the BBC Olympic channels were dedicated to badminton for the duration of every session.
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    You are so lucky (to be able to watch Olympic Badminton matches on the BBC).

    In Australia, our ABC hardly show any Badminton matches (just because our AUS players are not good enough).

    Sad, but true. Most countries will only televise events in which they are strong in (with hope for some medals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    You are so lucky (to be able to watch Olympic Badminton matches on the BBC).

    In Australia, our ABC hardly show any Badminton matches (just because our AUS players are not good enough).

    Sad, but true. Most countries will only televise events in which they are strong in (with hope for some medals).
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    Yeah it was very lucky, the only other badminton we get televised(uk) throughout the whole year is the last two days of the All England on Sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    I thought badminton in Indonesia was popular enough for all the above to happen? (large crowds, sponsors, tv coverage, big revenues, gambling). Is it true that in Indonesia football has always been rated higher/more popular than badminton? thanks
    Yes popular but not be priority...large crowds yes, but sponsors ?? i dont think so, ie. milk company "MILO" they choosed vollley ball rather than badminton as trademark picture. .
    big revenues no, we lost many time in olimpic. gambling ?? no one gambling for Super Series or olympic badminton ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yes popular but not be priority...large crowds yes, but sponsors ?? i dont think so, ie. milk company "MILO" they choosed vollley ball rather than badminton as trademark picture. .
    big revenues no, we lost many time in olimpic. gambling ?? no one gambling for Super Series or olympic badminton ...
    Sorry never been to Indonesia(soon hopefully) so excuse me for sounding ignorant, but why are there not many sponsors interested in badminton if it brings in large crowds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    @craigandy : Football
    @kermitvselmo : yes, you're right.Football is the most famous in Indonesia, and i hate that ...but i disagree with you football cheaper than badminton. We will discuss about this later and you "almost" right single sport will not be in higher priority for many countries, but i thought not its the only reason..
    football famous because involved a lot of money in there, Sponsors get customers because many spectators will see their products and buy, government get big taxes from them, television gets advertise, football federation get money from football club and competition and spectators can gamble to get money, so everyone happy

    @Theseed :i believe football training as harder as badminton
    actually football IS cheaper than badminton in term of cost for playing (for us mortal not for professional)
    cost to rent the court: five a side= Rp100,000
    badminton = Rp50,000 for student, or around Rp60,000 - Rp75,000 for non student at day (or 100,000 to 150,000 at night I don't know the price for five a side at night though)

    five a side: divided to at least 10 people = Rp 10K per person
    while badminton at least 2 person = Rp 25K per person (for me, it is too expensive to play singles..) for 4 person: it is still 12.5K per person

    now, even though I said 4 person = 12.5K per person, generally on lower level badminton, doubles takes less energy than singles
    then these 4 person would play around 2-3 hours (I even played for 4 hours each session) yeah, increase those money by 2-4 times

    while football, it will be fixed to 10K per person and I don't think you will gonna play 3-4 hours five a side

    for attire, most likely football is more expensive since football shoes usually more expensive than badminton shoes
    however these guys don't need shuttlecock like us (
    I used the cheap one garuda crystal green Rp45,000 per tube ($5) and it would cost more for good quality shuttles (such as king cobra, garuda red, gajahmada, etc)
    yeah, it put a hole into my wallet esp for students

    of course I know you think about different term why badminton is famous
    they got so much sponsor, tv license, spectators, merchandise, and gambling

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