2012 Asia U-19 Junior Championships in Gimcheon, Korea

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther

Don't worry.
I remember a BCer said that LYB doesn't consider AJC/WJC important.

what lyb think are not my concern.
i just want to proof that china are also face difficulty in term of searching talent,which i said since 2009 where i went to the ajc.

**Jagdpanther** · 07-04-2012, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

what lyb think are not my concern.
i just want to proof that china are also face difficulty in term of searching talent,which i said since 2009 where i went to the ajc.

Well, even with so-so talent... if they spar with their team A++, eventually they'll be good enough to beat anyone.

Do you believe if you train with Messi and co. since you're a little kid, you can play in EPL?

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther

Well, even with so-so talent... if they spar with their team A++, eventually they'll be good enough to beat anyone.
Do you believe if you train with Messi and co. since you're a little kid, you can play in EPL?

this doesnt apply in every situation.
why those who sparring with lee chongwei cant be good enough to beat anyone?
how about those who sparring with peter gade?cai/fu?lee hyun il?

**undeadshot** · 07-04-2012, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

lim chi wing play in the BJSS TOP PRIORITY asean school games

and lost in 2nd round.
cheam june wei is 15.
S kisona is 14

CJW and Kisona did well to cause a few upsets

**rosid** · 07-04-2012, 04:50 AM

Vito progress to R16

**Licin** · 07-04-2012, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

this doesnt apply in every situation.
why those who sparring with lee chongwei cant be good enough to beat anyone?
how about those who sparring with peter gade?cai/fu?lee hyun il?

Good point, limsy..
The best example is LCW who has no sparing partner in the world's Top 10th MS, yet he is still able to be on the top two for several years until now. Several young guns who are training with Dato LCW are yet good enough to be world beaters.

It takes more than just having good sparring partners, coach, facility, etc to be one of the world beaters.

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 04:53 AM

o.O
china lost another representative!
this is unexpected.
and soong jon ven is in rubber set i guess.

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

CJW and Kisona did well to cause a few upsets

but both need to play bigger tournament to buff their experience
bjss always content with their top player in junior stage
thats why they can only do well in junior tournament.

**undeadshot** · 07-04-2012, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

but both need to play bigger tournament to buff their experience
bjss always content with their top player in junior stage
thats why they can only do well in junior tournament.

Cheam June Wei's win over Joshi Pratul was really unexpected, not sure if his seniors (besides Joo Ven and Teck Zhi) can do better

Hope to see him challenge for the title in a few years' time, but Malaysia is pretty short on talent in other departments, compared to 2007-2011 era

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

Cheam June Wei's win over Joshi Pratul was really unexpected, not sure if his seniors (besides Joo Ven and Teck Zhi) can do better

Hope to see him challenge for the title in a few years' time, but Malaysia is pretty short on talent in other departments, compared to 2007-2011 era

bjss coach need to work harder
and stop doing stupid thing like sending 2nd best in bs and gs to asean school games

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 05:13 AM

china 2nd bs lost. only guo kai left and he will face the top seed from india

**sari_nov** · 07-04-2012, 05:14 AM

Soong joo ven trough to the next round, and xue song defeated by koreans

**Aikachan** · 07-04-2012, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

but both need to play bigger tournament to buff their experience bjss always content with their top player in junior stage thats why they can only do well in junior tournament.

Cannot blame BJSS ppl solely. Remember the recent issue with the boys, Darren and Joo Ven? The parents were told to forward their letters of plea to the 'kementerian'....Apparently the higher ups have the ultimatum on which tourneys the juniors must compete in. Shock? Nah...typical MAS politics in sport....

**rosid** · 07-04-2012, 05:23 AM

Hafiz Faisal/Mareta Dea lost to Vietnam Pair

**Jagdpanther** · 07-04-2012, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

this doesnt apply in every situation.
why those who sparring with lee chongwei cant be good enough to beat anyone?
how about those who sparring with peter gade?cai/fu?lee hyun il?

Indeed, this won't apply in all cases. But for, say, 10 so-so talents, provided they have all the best sparring partners, best training facility, and numerous chance to compete in tournaments... I'm sure at least 1 or 2 of them will shine.

Sparring with Peter? Jan O.
Cai/Fu? Chai/Guo.
Lee Hyun-il? Shon Wan-ho.
Lin Dan? Chen Long and Wang Zhengming.

Yes I know, none of them reach the level of their sparring partner (and I think they'll never be). But you cannot say they are bad players, no?

Originally Posted by sari_nov

Soong joo ven trough to the next round, and xue song defeated by koreans

This doesn't make things easier for Vito.
This Yuki Kaneko is good in both singles and doubles. Perhaps Japan's answer for Kang Ji-wook?

**limsy** · 07-04-2012, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by Aikachan

Cannot blame BJSS ppl solely. Remember the recent issue with the boys, Darren and Joo Ven? The parents were told to forward their letters of plea to the 'kementerian'....Apparently the higher ups have the ultimatum on which tourneys the juniors must compete in. Shock? Nah...typical MAS politics in sport....

bjss decided to sent soong and darren to asean school games
while bam select them to play in ajc
bjss is under education ministry and not bam
so unless soong and darren quit bjss,they cant play in ajc.