London OG group stage - 16 groups for 38 players

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  1. Jonc108

    Jonc108 Regular Member

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    BWF said their would be group stage first. For singles, their would be 16 groups. Yet number of players would be only 38 or 40. Therefore there would be only 2 players for most of the groups.is this true? How come you could call this a "group" instead of knock-off system if you only got 2 players for most of the groups?
     
  2. AlanY

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    they actually have groups of only ONE player in it
     
  3. badMania

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    The arrangements for the Olympics this year for Singles are messy. If BWF wants players to play more than 1 match (which is the original intention), then, they should EXPAND the number of players from 38/40 to 48! That will definitely ensure 3 players per group and 2 matches played for each player.

    Indeed, there might be only groups with 2 players as it is now.
     
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    Top 2/4 seeds go to QF instantly?
     
  5. AlanY

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    Yes, they are in groups of 1

    Top 4 straight to last 16, not QF
     
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    According to the BWF website, the draws will be conducted such that the top 16 seeds will be occupying the top place in each group (Steps 1-4) and the allocation of other non-seeded players will be according to these steps:
    Step 5 - 12 players to be allocated to groups with non top-4 seeds (cumulative #players - 28)
    Step 6: 10 players to be allocated to groups consisting of non top-4 seeds (cumulative #players - 38)
    Step 7: 4 players to be allocated to groups consisting of seeds 3/4 to 5/8 (cumulative #players - 42)
    Step 8: 4 players to be allocated to groups consisting of top 4 seeds (cumulative #players - 46)
    Step 9: 2 players to be allocated to groups consisting of top 2 seeds
    Step 10: Additional players (if any) to be allocated to groups consisting of seeds 9/16.

    As of 3 May 2012, I believe the number of qualified players for MS & WS are 38 and 46 respectively.

    So, according to calculation, we shall see:
    MS
    - the top 4-seeds will earn byes to R16 (1 player only in 4 groups), while 2 groups consisting of seeds 5-8 will have 2 players, and the other 10 groups (2 seeds 5-8 and the remaining seeds 9-16) will have 3 players in each group.

    WS -the top 2-seeds will play 1 time (2 players only in 2 groups), while the remaining seeds will have 3 players each.
     
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    The IOC (not BWF) has assigned a fixed number of participants. If you want 48 singles players then that means 4/5 less doubles pairs ;) ...
    3 players per group is useless as well imo, should be at least 4 to be meaningful ... 8 groups would be logical but extremely unusual in OG play :D
     
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    A draw of 32 should be nice. 8 players per group in 4 groups and each player plays 3 times. The top 2 will advance to the knock-out stage (QF). Easier to organize and less messy compared to the current system.
     
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    The different is for you suggestion one has to play 3 matches to get into the last 16 compare with NONE for current system for the top 4 in MS
     
  10. AlanY

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    been asked about the merit of the group stage for the 2012 Olympics, LD's response

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  11. OneToughBirdie

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    So, is LD response 'bring it on' or what does 2-finger thingie means?
     
  12. AlanY

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    i think he is not happy
     
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    Think British, OTB... ;)
     
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    What he meant is that only 2 people should qualify for Olympic.

    Just kidding...

    Maybe because he is seeded 2
     
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    the other hand was holding a racket, so one hand does two jobs
     
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