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    Hi,

    I'm a beginner and currently using Yonex Arcsaber 009dx. I'm having problem to do baseline to baseline... seems it's lack of power... besides the technique I need to improve, I plan to get another racket that might give me more power to return the shuttle to baseline. I plan to get head heavy racket and was thinking to get VT9 since lack of fund to get two digits VT.

    Using Arcsaber 009dx, I don't have problem with smashes and net-play... the only problem to hit the shuttle to baseline.

    Is VT9 suitable for the task?

    Could any of you suggest other brands/racket to give more power to counter for this issue.

    If possible the price should be between RM240 - RM350 / USD80 - USD120 / SGD100 - SGD150

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    Quote Originally Posted by exkaizen View Post
    Using Arcsaber 009dx, I don't have problem with smashes and net-play... the only problem to hit the shuttle to baseline.
    No wonder, when you are a beginner and play with a racket with an extra stiff shaft.

    I play a Voltric 5 and can highly recommend it even for beginners. It is heavier than the VT7 and slighly head heavier too, but maneuverability is great for a head heavy racket. And with the medium flexible shaft, you shouldn't have problems to reach the end of the court. I recommend it over the VT9, because this is a stiff racket too and many people reported, that it isn't that easy to handle ... not so the VT5, which has a nice combination of control and power.

    Read UK coach Paul's VT5 review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aymara View Post
    No wonder, when you are a beginner and play with a racket with an extra stiff shaft.I play a Voltric 5 and can highly recommend it even for beginners. It is heavier than the VT7 and slighly head heavier too, but maneuverability is great for a head heavy racket. And with the medium flexible shaft, you shouldn't have problems to reach the end of the court. I recommend it over the VT9, because this is a stiff racket too and many people reported, that it isn't that easy to handle ... not so the VT5, which has a nice combination of control and power.Read UK coach Paul's VT5 review.
    how about the string tension... ?

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    mate if u start to use vt5 or vt7 then u will have problem with arc 9dx cause of the stiffness. i have problem with arc 9dx. i think its not user friendly imo. i've vt80 n arc9dx
    i love vt80 along with mx60

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    yeah... it will give problem when using arc... if I'm comfortable with medium flex + head heavy... will let go the arc 9dx...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmintanfreak View Post
    i think its not user friendly imo.
    Let's say the Arc 9DX isn't a beginner racket ... I bet some experienced players might love it.

    If budget is a matter, I highly recommend to test the VT5.

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    if u hv budget, i reckon go for mx60... it great racket for all badminton player need for their racket works in term of maneuvering, power, speed, control and stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffsuad View Post
    if u hv budget, i reckon go for mx60...
    I'm very curious to test it ... too bad I need to wait until August, the Europe release.

    It's worth to read UK coach Paul's review.

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    IMHO arc 9dx is a good racket for me... only for clear shuttle to baseline require more power which not in the racket.... I plan to get the VT5 first since I believe its cheaper than MX60... if head heavy racket suitable for me... than will thinking to get the MX60... in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by exkaizen View Post
    ... require more power which not in the racket...
    It's not really the racket, but your arm power and technique, which is required for such a stiff racket. Stiff rackets are for very advanced players, not beginners.

    I plan to get the VT5 first since I believe its cheaper than MX60
    The Meteor is much more expensive ... around the double price.

    ... if head heavy racket suitable for me ...
    Most coaches recommend medium flexible rackets for beginners. Some of them recommend even head heavy rackets, because they give more power. Usually head heavy rackets have the downside of having a bad maneuverability, so having a disadvantage in defence and net play. This is not the case with the VT5, I can assure you.

    BTW, I tested the VT5 and the VT80 in a large shop and the VT5 was the clear winner for my taste.

    Nevertheless I'm curious about the MX60, which isn't available in Europe so far. I expect it to have even better maneuverability compared to the VT5, because it seems to be a bit less head heavy. But the flex seems to be very similar.

    Racket choice is a very individual phenomenon, but I would expect, that you love the VT5 as I do.

    It would help, if you have the chance to swing it in a shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exkaizen View Post
    how about the string tension... ?
    String tension plays a role too ... the higher the tension, the less good for beginners. The VT5 comes factory strung with 21 lbs as far I remember, which is perfect for me, because I play both feather and plastic shuttle cocks. If you only play feather up to 24 lbs might be fine.

    Usually I would recommend 20 lbs for beginners, which is standard factory stringing tension in Europe, where beginners usually only play plastic, not feather.

    Playing too high tensions might lead to arm injuries for beginners, especially when playing plastic shuttlecocks.

    PS: Lower tension also gives more reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aymara View Post
    String tension plays a role too ... the higher the tension, the less good for beginners. The VT5 comes factory strung with 21 lbs as far I remember, which is perfect for me, because I play both feather and plastic shuttle cocks. If you only play feather up to 24 lbs might be fine.

    Usually I would recommend 20 lbs for beginners, which is standard factory stringing tension in Europe, where beginners usually only play plastic, not feather.

    Playing too high tensions might lead to arm injuries for beginners, especially when playing plastic shuttlecocks.

    PS: Lower tension also gives more reach.
    thanks for the advice... thinking to string it at 24lbs

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    I used to have this problem with not hitting the back line, and since then I've bought loads of rackets - more than 30 to be exact. I'm able to perform a larger array of shots now, but I can honestly say the racket doesn't have a large part to play in it.

    For about 2 months, I received 1-hour long weely training sessions with a coach to work out the techniques. Thought the total cost added up to more than what I'd pay for a shining new racket, the results are worth 100 more.

    For each hour you spend on the internet researching what racket will improve your [INSERT TYPE OF SHOT], you're better off training up on your technique / muscle / agility.

    I'd keep your racket, lower the string tension, and get to the courts to work up a sweat. All the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desouled View Post
    I'd keep your racket, lower the string tension, and get to the courts to work up a sweat. All the best!
    Definitely the cheapest thing to try first ... getting a trainer is also a very good advice. Nevertheless ... very stiff rackets and high tensions are not for beginners.

    PS: Because the 9DX is extra stiff, I would lower the tension below 24 lbs, maybe 20-22 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desouled View Post
    I used to have this problem with not hitting the back line, and since then I've bought loads of rackets - more than 30 to be exact. I'm able to perform a larger array of shots now, but I can honestly say the racket doesn't have a large part to play in it.

    For about 2 months, I received 1-hour long weely training sessions with a coach to work out the techniques. Thought the total cost added up to more than what I'd pay for a shining new racket, the results are worth 100 more.

    For each hour you spend on the internet researching what racket will improve your [INSERT TYPE OF SHOT], you're better off training up on your technique / muscle / agility.

    I'd keep your racket, lower the string tension, and get to the courts to work up a sweat. All the best!
    For the time being can't allocate for a coach (still agree with a coach you will improve tremendously).

    The only thing is I will restring my 9dx to 22lbs and still get VT5 and string it at 24lbs (although initially to let go 9dx if comfortable with VT5, I had a second thought to make it as a spare)

    but seriously thank you very much to all of you to give advices. :thumbs:

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    Quote Originally Posted by exkaizen View Post
    For the time being can't allocate for a coach ...
    Start with Youtube video ... just search there for badminton training ... you'll find tons of them, some being very good.

    ... get VT5 and string it at 24lbs ...
    I would recommend trying the factory stringing first, which I find quite good.

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    Hrmm... In my country it came without string... So can't try the factory strung...Yeah... Saw a lot of youtube vids...

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