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    Quote Originally Posted by davlee View Post
    Maybe tranqq can try a 4u MXJJS instead. BS12 doesn't play like JJS at all. Totally different. I love my JJS but could never felt the same with BS12. I think 3u is heavy for him since defensive wise a bit slow.. Not due to flexibility
    Yes davlee has it right.. I like the stiffness and power the jjs offers..it just feels too heavy to play a fast pace doubles game where im constantly smashing from the back. I think ill try to improve my wrist strength though..thanks for the tips guys. Currently im using 3u mx 60 as my go to..but that decision was aidec by a shoulder injury i had and am almost fully recovered from. Im scared a 4u will be too light and not pack the power i want.. All my victor racquets are 3U and generally in the 96-97 gram range except my jjs..which i was playing at 101grams

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    Bro , u are right, but BS12 N is more flexible ...

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    Why are you constantly mentioning about flexibility? Dont you understand that is not his concern? Flexible so what? It doesnt play the same as JJS. Head weight also different..

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    I received my mx jjs and the first impression is that the head weight is very pronounced. More so than what I expected. It is balanced differently from all other meteors I used - more HH.
    I played a short session last with the original grip only.
    Weight: 90.7 BP 308mm SW: 41.4 - original grip + strings bg80@27lbs
    It was freshly strung so I need to go through a few sessions to fully get an idea of what's capable of.
    Shaft is definitely more flex than mx70 and it generally felt better than mx70 albeit the extra head weight which I'm not familiar with. The G4 grip is perhaps a little too thin so adding an overgrip might help a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meteor View Post
    I received my mx jjs and the first impression is that the head weight is very pronounced. More so than what I expected. It is balanced differently from all other meteors I used - more HH.
    I played a short session last with the original grip only.
    Weight: 90.7 BP 308mm SW: 41.4 - original grip + strings bg80@27lbs
    It was freshly strung so I need to go through a few sessions to fully get an idea of what's capable of.
    Shaft is definitely more flex than mx70 and it generally felt better than mx70 albeit the extra head weight which I'm not familiar with. The G4 grip is perhaps a little too thin so adding an overgrip might help a little.
    That does seem quite different to my JJS's. If your BP with strings and minus the cellophane wrapping is 308mm. I guess your dry BP (with cellophane) would be approx. 295mm.

    For comparison, mine were both 290mm (3U). So yeah yours would feel a bit more HH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R20190 View Post
    That does seem quite different to my JJS's. If your BP with strings and minus the cellophane wrapping is 308mm. I guess your dry BP (with cellophane) would be approx. 295mm.

    For comparison, mine were both 290mm (3U). So yeah yours would feel a bit more HH.
    5mm is a big difference. More than enough to be out of my comfort zone.
    Victor seems to continue with their traditional weight variation.
    Hope to be able to tame the beast in the coming sessions because apart from head weight it felt very nice.

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    I think that with overgrip your BP will be around 298, the same as mine. It is a head-heavy racket, no doubt about it. If you want something a bit quicker and lighter, then you should try 4U TK6000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swunk View Post
    I think that with overgrip your BP will be around 298, the same as mine. It is a head-heavy racket, no doubt about it. If you want something a bit quicker and lighter, then you should try 4U TK6000.
    I got my eyes on tk6000, tried it a few days ago and felt very good. There are no tk6000 stocks in UK now as far as I'm aware, everyone is Christmas shopping!

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    Meteor

    New stocks arrive in Europe next week. So i would check with Direct Sports or Central Sports whether they have any on back order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Meteor

    New stocks arrive in Europe next week. So i would check with Direct Sports or Central Sports whether they have any on back order.

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    Thanks Paul, I'll keep an eye. Central Sports had the TK6000 until three days ago. Now there are no TK6000 or MX JJS on either.
    I had a second session with the JJS tonight and I'm totally in love with it! The plan is to get a TK6000 and then get a backup of whichever I'll decide will be my go to.

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    Meteor

    If I was you I would snap up a JJS whilst you can. This racket will NOT be available next year and I can confirm Victor Europe has sold out. So the only available stock is on the shelves of retailers. My advice is get one now whilst you can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Meteor

    If I was you I would snap up a JJS whilst you can. This racket will NOT be available next year and I can confirm Victor Europe has sold out. So the only available stock is on the shelves of retailers. My advice is get one now whilst you can!

    Paul
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    What would be the point since the MX90 is out?

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    Good point.

    For me JJS is a classic racket that has never been given the chance to shine in Europe due to the huge delays and weak launch. It is only now being recognised as a brilliant racket. Lots of players love the colour too and therefore this means there's so little time before it simply won't be available.

    MX90 is also a brilliant racket. I'm really struggling comparing the two because there is a different feel but playability is just as good. And I'm am finding it difficult to put into words how they feel different.

    For players who don't mind colour then wait for MX90. But for those who really want that lovely orange colour, time is running out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Good point.

    For me JJS is a classic racket that has never been given the chance to shine in Europe due to the huge delays and weak launch. It is only now being recognised as a brilliant racket. Lots of players love the colour too and therefore this means there's so little time before it simply won't be available.

    MX90 is also a brilliant racket. I'm really struggling comparing the two because there is a different feel but playability is just as good. And I'm am finding it difficult to put into words how they feel different.

    For players who don't mind colour then wait for MX90. But for those who really want that lovely orange colour, time is running out.

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    Could the different feel be due to slightly different specs? For example, I'm sure the MX-JJS you have in your bag isn't the same total weight and balance as the MX90. Also, perhaps you are using different strings with different tensions, or different grips etc. I would think the best way to compare two rackets is to ensure they are the same spec (eg. identical total dry weight and balance point), and to string and grip them identically.

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    Paul, I know the detailed review is coming soon. But just curious on the stiffness diff between these two. Any inputs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssj100 View Post
    Could the different feel be due to slightly different specs? For example, I'm sure the MX-JJS you have in your bag isn't the same total weight and balance as the MX90. Also, perhaps you are using different strings with different tensions, or different grips etc. I would think the best way to compare two rackets is to ensure they are the same spec (eg. identical total dry weight and balance point), and to string and grip them identically.
    I've tried a 3UG5 MX90 against a 3UG5 MXJJS, and there was still a difference. It was difficult to pin down what the difference was, though... I can only put it down to the shaft.

    It'd need more extensive testing - I only got one game with the 90 - but based on that game, I'd take the 90 over the JJS. Just.

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    Mark

    It's great to know that you understand my dilemma here. There's something but can't quite work out what.

    For you perhaps there's the G5 grip on MX90 versus G4 as I know you prefer G5. Maybe it's the slightly thinnner shaft on MX90. Maybe there's something in the graphene on JJS which creates a different feel.

    What we can agree on is that they are both superb rackets. I just wish I could understand and explain the difference.

    Paul
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    PS At least i know I can complete my review and not feel inadequate!

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