CBA - End of a Golden Era in sight?

**laonong** · 06-13-2012, 05:56 AM

thanks for loh's explainantion of ZJH's business experience. When I saw the photo I was really feel sad for him .

**laonong** · 06-13-2012, 06:04 AM

The do have potential to beat China WS. But the probability to beat two is small. Saina is the highest ranked non China player (no necessary the best one), but her head to head win rate to any of the top 4 Chinese players are lower than 30% (?correct). Her chance of beating two China WS will be less than 10%.

**bad's fan** · 06-13-2012, 06:50 AM

yup, to beat any chinese WS is nothing impossible, but to win a tournament with 4 or more china WS players in it, that's what nearly impossible. and would be great if any WS can do it!

**Qidong** · 06-13-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by laonong

thanks for loh's explainantion of ZJH's business experience. When I saw the photo I was really feel sad for him .

At least he is way better than all these ex NBA NFL players making hundreds of millions in their career and now owes millions in debt.

**Loh** · 06-14-2012, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Justin L

Thanks,Uncle Loh,for telling us the above,hope you've even more to say about his sojourn in Singapore. Did he ever play for Singapore,not that I know of?

Glad to know he got a coaching job in Guanxi, how come not at the national level,he has the credentials,I believe?

I have posted in the ZJH thread before but I couldn't locate it now.

When he arrived in Singapore, probably in this 30's, our club arranged to have him play a demonstration match with a young Indonesian player, who was some sort of an ex-junior champion. This Indonesian who was recently married, is still in Singapore working as a coach to one well known school.

Many older Singapore fans have seen ZJH in action a number of times in Singapore during his hey days. He was very popular and well admired for his skills. He was very deceptive and his overhead forehand reverse sliced drop was his trademark.

Naturally after his demonstration our club members rushed for his autograph. I got a new shuttle and had him sign on the cork.

However, ZJH might not have been as popular with the Chinese coaches as he was thought to be a little lazy and ill-disciplined. Indeed LYB might find him out of place.

But ZJH struck a relatively harmonious chord with our badminton officials, club players and fans. Before he left Singapore, he donated a ZJH Challenge Trophy to be competed as an inter-club tournament. Unfortunately, little is known of this trophy and the tournament, which must have died a natural death.

**Loh** · 06-14-2012, 10:13 PM

I managed to find that 'special shuttlecock' which has ZJH's autograph on it.

The brand is "Masuka", which I can't remember having played with this shuttle before, and it has been kept quite intact even after 18 years.

Now I wonder whether ZJH took the trouble to train his son to be a badminton player as I don't see any male talent from China with the surname of Zhao in the current batch of around 16-years-old.

**Justin L** · 06-15-2012, 02:07 AM

Priceless,make sure you keep it in a glass case under key and lock,maybe buy insurance for it too.

**SolsticeOfLight** · 06-15-2012, 03:56 AM

Shuttles are to be played with

**Loh** · 06-15-2012, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Justin L

Priceless,make sure you keep it in a glass case under key and lock,maybe buy insurance for it too.

Maybe I should auction this shuttle to the highest bidder.

Any takers?

**pBmMalaysia** · 06-15-2012, 12:06 PM

Me as the first bidder S$ 100.

**OneToughBirdie** · 06-15-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

Me as the first bidder S$ 100.

WooHoo...you are like LD losing to SDK in Thai SF, very generous lah

So, what do you do with the cock?

**Loh** · 06-15-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

Me as the first bidder S$ 100.

Not bad, one who appreciates the art of ZJH.

Anybody else?

BTW when I last watched the coaching tape of his with his lady colleague, I thought it was
good.

Maybe I should set a floor price.

**SolsticeOfLight** · 06-16-2012, 05:41 AM

Maybe selling stuff should not go in this thread

**pBmMalaysia** · 06-16-2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

WooHoo...you are like LD losing to SDK in Thai SF, very generous lah

So, what do you do with the cock?

If I won the bid @ S$100 what do you think?

Why keep a cock when you can't play with it (damn too expensive

)?

I'll will start the bidding again

Originally Posted by Loh

Not bad, one who appreciates the art of ZJH.Anybody else? BTW when I last watched the coaching tape of his with his lady colleague, I thought it was good.Maybe I should set a floor price.

So Loh, if no more bid, it should be mine?

**Loh** · 06-17-2012, 01:19 AM

I just got an update on ZJH from Wikipedia.

The 6' (1.83m) tall, left handed ZJH is now 47, born 21 April 1965 in Jiansu Province and his impressive record includes, among many other international victories, the following:

WC 1991 Copenhagen, DEN (beat Alan Budikusuma INA)

TC 1988 KL MAS; 1990 Tokyo JPN,representing CHN.

Asian Games 1986 Seoul, KOR and 1990 Beijing, CHN, beating Yang Yang on both occasions.

AE 1985 and 1990

However during the 1992 Olympics he lost narrowly in the rubber to Hermawan Susanto of INA during R16.

A bid of S$100 works out to barely less than S$6 a year for a memorabilia of one of the world's most talented players? Sure he is worth more than that!

Maybe if I offer it to Guangxi Province Club, of which ZJH is now head coach, they will be more appreciative and bid a much higher price!

***cobalt*** · 06-19-2012, 01:31 PM

There has been much talk about how China's top WS girls made a mess of it in the last 2 tournaments (Thailand and Indonesia) and have shown some kinks in the armour of the Chinese WS battalion. Of course, many valid points have also been made: Don't play to chance injury, study opponents and try out new tactics, etc. Also, the chief WS coach Zhang Ning was absent, and some of the girls were left to often do their own thinking. Nevertheless, the losses to other players will not help their confidence. And there are no other players yet stepping up to fill those shoes....