Which Chinese WS players will go to Olympics?

[ctjcad]

repentedboy : man, why is LYB delaying and putting so much suspense over who to select? he will ruin and degrade the players' mind; Gold medal is all but a gone case for CHN WS...oh wait, gotta be BWF's fault..

pcll99 & Justin L : mate, relax, we will hear the answer soon; no need to worry and lose sleep over this...but in the meantime, we'll keep entertaining you and keep this thread alive until master LYB makes the decision..

I don't think LYB is playing any tricks. It's just a tough decision.

actually it's not a tough decision...well, at least not to the 44 (and counting) BCers who already cast in their SLAM DUNK vote on who will go..

[Justin L]

here's today scoop

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000026.htm

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000262.htm

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000470.htm

Thanks. Now these three articles are speculating that WSX is a reserve and at the same time acknowledging LYB's statement that nothing is finalised until 9th Jul announcement.

One of the articles also has LXR admitting she herself has no idea whether she's been selected or not. All three articles are in agreement that WSX has the advantage of richer experience but patchy form as drawback whereas LXR has stellar performance as the edge but lack of big match experience as deficiency. In the second article,an anonymous insider actually revealed that WYH ,WX and LXR are chosen and WSX is the reserve but the report is unconfirmed as expected.

So far one thing is clear,WYH is a sure bet for a spot in the OG which LYB admitted as much. WX is basically touted as the second chosen one, but LYB didn't deny nor affirm it,thereby adding to the uncertainty. The suspense is getting heightened, not least "the four flowers" themselves.

[Justin L]

Interestingly, a few of the Chinese articles pcll99 posted also have online polls on which of the four WS will be left out of the Olympics and the results so far point to WSX, practically in line with our poll.

[repentedboy]

Thanks. Now these three articles are speculating that WSX is a reserve and at the same time acknowledging LYB's statement that nothing is finalised until 9th Jul announcement.

One of the articles also has LXR admitting she herself has no idea whether she's been selected or not. All three articles are in agreement that WSX has the advantage of richer experience but patchy form as drawback whereas LXR has stellar performance as the edge but lack of big match experience as deficiency. In the second article,an anonymous insider actually revealed that WYH ,WX and LXR are chosen and WSX is the reserve but the report is unconfirmed as expected.

So far one thing is clear,WYH is a sure bet for a spot in the OG which LYB admitted as much. WX is basically touted as the second chosen one, but LYB didn't deny nor affirm it,thereby adding to the uncertainty. The suspense is getting heightened, not least "the four flowers" themselves.

20+ days in countdown before the draw is released and the articles sort of reflect the current mental state of these three players: WX, WSX and LXR.

They have been training in the isolated postion for a month with the uncertainty they bear in mind whether they can be selected or not. How is this helping to their preparation mentally ?

This decision should have been made final since qualification has ended and they should crack on with their intensive training thinking about the competition.

Well done LYB, you are definitely on the firing line if not at least the first to take the blame if China fails to secure gold in WS.
Your action has caused two girls who are selected to be mentally ill-prepared and that will be destructive to their form.

Wang Yihan, you are our Chinese people only heroine...

[nitabluez]

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000623.htm

Is this the final decision? Or....just wait until 9th of July~

[Justin L]

20+ days in countdown before the draw is released and the articles sort of reflect the current mental state of these three players: WX, WSX and LXR.

They have been training in the isolated postion for a month with the uncertainty they bear in mind whether they can be selected or not. How is this helping to their preparation mentally ?

This decision should have been made final since qualification has ended and they should crack on with their intensive training thinking about the competition.

Well done LYB, you are definitely on the firing line if not at least the first to take the blame if China fails to secure gold in WS.
Your action has caused two girls who are selected to be mentally ill-prepared and that will be destructive to their form.

Wang Yihan, you are our Chinese people only heroine...

Cannot be helped,I guess they have to rely on the concerted efforts of the coaches,sport psychologists, and the selected players themselves to minimise the negative impact.

[repentedboy]

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000623.htm

Is this the final decision? Or....just wait until 9th of July~

We will not know the REAL answer until the 23rd of July when the draw is finally been made.
IOC should never have come up with this kind of stupid ruling to allow LAST MINUTE REPLACEMENT right before the 23rd July.

They should be firm when the list is submitted on the 9th July, that should be final and no changes can be made afterwards. If one of the Chinese gets injured, then the first reserve can be allowed to play.
This is just plain stupid from the very beginning.
Every opportunity like this will be exploited by LYB as long as he is allowed to.

So the mystery remains until 23rd hence we wont be fully satisfied until the final draw is announced. Have CBA already decided who to send long time ago before the start of the Indonesian Open or
they are still indecisive until now. If it's the latter, then China has no hope of winning now.
WYH it's all up to you. Hope she can cope with the pressure.

[Justin L]

http://sports.qq.com/a/20120705/000623.htm

Is this the final decision? Or....just wait until 9th of July~

Nope,not the final decision;that's right,still have to wait until 9th Jul, according to the article.

Tellingly,the last paragraph repeated what was said in another article, about a certain insider revealing that the selectees were WYH,WX and LXR with WSX as reserve - again as expected,uncorroborated by anyone. The saga continues.

[Justin L]

We will not know the REAL answer until the 23rd of July when the draw is finally been made.
IOC should never have come up with this kind of stupid r5ling to allow LAST MINUTE REPLACEMENT right before the 23rd July.

They should be firm when the list is submitted on the 9th July, that should be final and no changes can be made afterwards. If one of the Chinese gets injured, then the first reserve can be allowed to play.
This is just plain stupid from the very beginning.
Every opportunity like this will be exploited by LYB as long as he is allowed to.

So the mystery remains until 23rd hence we wont be fully satisfied until the final draw is announced. Have CBA already decided who to send long time ago before the start of the Indonesian Open or
they are still indecisive until now. If it's%r0the latter, then China has no hope of winning now.
WYH it's all up to you. Hope she can cope with the pressure.

The 23rd Jul deadline is mentioned as a technical possibility by a certain BWF official on grounds of injury/sickness as certified by an approved medical doctor before any replacement is allowed.

As for LYB,he has repeatedly said 9th Jul is the finalization date, any changes before 23rd Jul can only be due to unforeseen circumstances as it would affect the reserve player's mental preparation and probably upset their gameplan.I don't think LYB wants to further complicate matters unnecessarily and invite criticism back home. I believe he will act decisively and confidently by 9th Jul, wishy-washiness is not his trait.

Just a few more days,patience,my friend, you seem more excited and worried than anybody else.

[LD rules!]

Tournament Software has the 3 Chinese Wangs in and no Li Xuerui.


http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...FB717A&event=2

[pcll99]

If WYH, WX and LXR are submitted to BWF/IOC on 9 July, can LYB submit WSX after 9 July?

Would it matter if WX or LXR is to be replaced after 9 July?

[Justin L]

Tournament Software has the 3 Chinese Wangs in and no Li Xuerui.


http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...FB717A&event=2

If I'm not wrong,TS is based on the BWF Qualifier list which is not finalized yet. You can say it is tentative and will be updated as time goes by.

[LD rules!]

If I'm not wrong,TS is based on the BWF Qualifier list which is not finalized yet. You can say it is tentative and will be updated as time goes by.

possibly but in the BWF Qualifier List it showed Maria Febe for INA, and on TS it shows Firdasari...

http://bwfbadminton.visualclubweb.nl...d=350190&tid=1

[repentedboy]

If WYH, WX and LXR are submitted to BWF/IOC on 9 July, can LYB submit WSX after 9 July?

Would it matter if WX or LXR is to be replaced after 9 July?

No, she cannot replace LXR if either of them gets injured. Because the stupid rule says the highest ranked player CAN only be replaced.

What chances do you think WX will get last minute swapped by WSX ?

I have a feeling LYB will stick to the Three Wangs on the 9th and then make the last minute change right before the 23rd of July.

Justification for his action: We could catch our opponents by surprise doing this.

This is really stupid from his side because it WILL NOT unsettle the opponents.

[repentedboy]

possibly but in the BWF Qualifier List it showed Maria Febe for INA, and on TS it shows Firdasari...

http://bwfbadminton.visualclubweb.nl...d=350190&tid=1

I am quite disappointed by how horrible Febe played in UC. Sending Firdasari is better than her.

[Justin L]

Found the following dated 29.06.11( but should still be applicable, I believe - see no reason to change a rule that is seldom invoked). For easy reading, I've highlighted the most relevant parts using different colours. It applies to replacement of athletes after 9th Juyl 2012. My understanding is that the drawing of lots for badminton will be conducted on 23rd Jul and the late replacement cut-off date is 20th Jul from what I've gathered elsewhere. Personally, I believe such late replacement should be avoided unless absolutely necessary as it would introduce too much uncertainty and upsetting to the players concerned :


LATE ATHLETE REPLACEMENT POLICY
FOR THE LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC GAMES
The deadline for the final lists of participating athletes in the Games of the XXX Olympiad in London
2012 (the ‘London Olympic Games’) is 9 July 2012. However, where urgent medical problems arise, or
in other exceptional circumstances that are assessed on a case-by-case basis, the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) may permit the permanent replacement of one athlete by another ONLY in
the same sport, discipline, and event. This can only occur after consultation with the relevant
International Federation (IF) and, when deemed necessary by the IOC, an IOC medical expert. The
replacement of athletes after 9 July 2012 is possible providing:
(i) The replacement athlete is entitled, and qualified, to take part in the London Olympic
Games as stipulated in the “XXX Olympic Summer Games London 2012 - Participation
and Qualification Criteria”, published in 2010, and regularly updated by the IOC;
(ii) No doping control issues are pending concerning the replacement athlete;
(iii) The National Olympic Committee (“NOC”) of the replacement athlete had applied for
accreditation for the athlete prior to the application for accreditation deadline on 23 March
2012.
The following additional procedures must also be carried out in order for one athlete to be replaced by
another:
(a) The relevant NOC must fill out an “Official Athlete Replacement Form” for the athlete being
replaced and the replacement athlete;
The relevant NOC must fill out the “Eligibility Conditions Form” and, when required, the “Sport Entry
Form” and the “Parent/Legal Guardian Acknowledgment of Consent for Minors” for the replacement
athlete;
(b) The accreditation card of the replaced athlete must be withdrawn and handed over to the
Olympic Village Arrivals / Accreditation Centre (OVAC) in the Olympic Village, in order to allow
for accreditation entitlements to be transferred to the replacement athlete (subject to the
approval of the IOC, as referred to above). Following the transfer, the accreditation card of the
replaced athlete shall be cancelled;
(c) Athletes accredited with a P Accreditation already fulfill paragraphs (i), (ii), (iii) and (b), and
NOCs need only to submit an Athlete Replacement Form. Once approved they must hand
over the accreditation card of the athlete being replaced. For P athletes, replacement and
hand over of the Aa card may happen at the Venue Accreditation Office of the sport of the
athletes concerned or at the Olympic Village Arrivals / Accreditation Centre (OVAC).
As a general rule, it is possible to make athlete replacements only up to the time of the Technical
Meeting for the relevant sport, with the exception of the disciplines of Canoe/Kayak Sprint, BMX
Cycling (P accreditations) and Track Cycling (P accreditations), and the sports of Equestrian, Athletics
(P accreditations), Fencing (P accreditations) Rowing (P accreditations), Football (P accreditations),
Table Tennis (P accreditations), Hockey (P accreditations) and Handball (P accreditations).
All documentation and queries regarding this matter should be sent by email or submitted in person to
the LOCOG Sports Entries Department located at:
London Olympic Village - Olympic Village Arrivals / Accreditation Centre (OVAC) – Sport Entries Office
Tel: +44 (0) 30 2012 1130 and Fax: xxx-xxx-xxxx
E-mail: entries.olympic@london2012.com
The LOCOG Sport Entries Office will forward all received queries to the Athletes’ Accreditation Centre
and to the IOC Sports Department accordingly.
The above-noted policy is subject to further change by the IOC for exceptional circumstances.
IOC Sports Dept. 29.06.11

[Justin L]

possibly but in the BWF Qualifier List it showed Maria Febe for INA, and on TS it shows Firdasari...

http://bwfbadminton.visualclubweb.nl...d=350190&tid=1

The list I saw states that Maria Febe (n0.34) has declined and replaced by Firdasari(no.40) http://bwfbadminton.visualclubweb.nl...d=359711&tid=1