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07-23-2012, 10:12 AM #35
1) Taufik was fortunate to peak at the head end of Lin Dan's rise, meaning if his rise were to coincide with LD as in Lee CW's case, I wonder how many major titles Taufik would get to win;
2) Taufik's era more or less overlaps Lin Dan's and Lee CW's, so the three often play against each other, making a reasonably objective comparison of their relative skills quite possible;
3) for the last 4 years since the Beijing 2008 Olympics, during which time Taufik was and is still actively playing, only Lee CW comes close to matching Lin Dan in performance with virtually both of them contesting all the major championships - in fact,the two are in a class of their own until very recently.
We can agree to disagree, perfectly fine by me,thank you.
Last edited by Justin L; 07-23-2012 at 10:26 AM.
07-23-2012, 10:12 AM #36
07-23-2012, 10:19 AM #37
07-23-2012, 10:19 AM #38
Taufik is no doubt my second favourite player after Lin Dan. I don't get all the critics about Taufik. He's achieved so much, and he doesn't have anything to prove anymore. Let him enjoy his game and play how he wants. He has a family and kids that's more important than badminton now, let's just enjoy the time he has left on the international courts okay?
07-23-2012, 10:20 AM #39
07-23-2012, 10:25 AM #40
Why don't you cc all your posts to me to claim my partnership?
I remember telling you before that I'd appreciate you don't talk to me. You claim to be a high class,high standard personality, at least have the decency and self-respect to grant my personal request and stop "harassing" me. Why are you so fond of me that you must deign to elevate me to your high status? Am I supposed to feel honoured? Is this how a noble person should conduct himself?
From now on,in fact from then on,you are in my "Ignore List" - have I made myself clear? Thanks,but no thanks.
07-23-2012, 10:52 AM #41
07-23-2012, 11:11 AM #42
C'mon,anybody can claim any player to be The Greatest of All but you will have to try and convince others by backing up your assertion with facts,proofs where available, a cogent argument and well-reasoned,persuasive viewpoints - all without personal attacks. Then it's up to the other party to agree or disagree by offering his reasons. But do bear in mind that what one writes and how one presents one's case will reflect on oneself.
In the end,even with the best of intentions and after observing ethical standards and etiquette, we still disagree with each other, so what? Surely there is no need to antagonize each other like that. What do we gain or lose other than our egos and (false) pride?
Robert Hume has said when emotions come in,reason is thrown out the door. Let's face it,how many of us will actually say 'after thinking over what you've said, I realize I'
m wrong ,you're right, I hereby discard my wrong views and embrace yours,thank you'? The very few who do, and one can be found in this forum,win my utmost respect and admiration. For most people,the most that they do is to say 'let's agree to disagree' to save face,right? How many of us are selfless truthseekers?
07-23-2012, 11:17 AM #43
So, to all the LCW, based on that thinking, him winning the 2010 & 2011 AE is nothing major..In other words, LCW hasn't won any major tourney ever..?
* ..knew this topic is gonna be mucho caliente..
Last edited by ctjcad; 07-23-2012 at 11:30 AM.
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07-23-2012, 11:22 AM #44
07-23-2012, 11:57 AM #45
The mods havent come to close this thread? They must be busy working, it's still daytime in some parts of the world
07-23-2012, 11:58 AM #46
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07-23-2012, 12:09 PM #47
Comparing the AE prize reward being less than other SS with more prize money, the WC and OG (and maybe AG) offer a big fat zero prize money, only medals, to the winners in comparison to the AE...yet they are still considered "better" than the AE?..
That's right folks, looking at the bigger picture of this post/topic, it all relates to LCW (as well as other AE winners) as well whether one likes it or not..
Last edited by ctjcad; 07-23-2012 at 12:12 PM.
07-23-2012, 12:15 PM #48
taufik is free to say what he want, but i maybe won't agree with him. if only AE title is not that important, why did LD so happy when he won it for the 1st time in 2004 (please CMIIW)? so does LCW , she was so happy, so expressive when he won it 1st time in 2010? you can see what happen when LCW win a SSP tournament, he is almost flat, not too much expression. but when come to win AE, i think we can see how happy he was. and it's not only LCW. it's also applied to many others players.
AE maybe not important to taufik, just another SSP title, and some badminton fans might think like that also. but for most of the players, the AE still has it's own prestige, even with WC around every year.
my question would be: if, only IF, taufik did manage to won 1 AE title, would he still saying the same statement?
just IMO, peace.
Last edited by bad's fan; 07-23-2012 at 12:23 PM.
07-23-2012, 12:26 PM #49
for me, it's all about winning and record. I dont have the privilege to watch any of Hartono's matches but I will consider he is one of the best. because of his 8 AE titles, they are history and in the record book.
we have to look at players' achievement, not what if, or what would have happened etc.
TH, like it or not, was Olympics Champion, world champion, asian games champion, and LCW 2 AE titles, that's all really.
So, for me TH is ahead of LCW.
07-23-2012, 12:45 PM #50
CJ did not celebrate when he won AE. His expression was like, this is just another title or maybe, the money is not enough. I will go for Korea Open , anytime. Or INA Open when it offers more $$$ than Korea Open. The previous prestige of AE cannot last if the prize money does not keep up with inflation. The glamour, the tradition is great but show me the money!
07-23-2012, 12:49 PM #51
Oh common now! Just put it behind now. Let us all collectively accept that neither TH nor LD nor LCW is the 'supreme greatest'. Everyone is awesome in their own right and get their due respect from each other on and off the court.
In fact the current best player in the world is definitely P Kashyap (my countryman of course!) . You can ask anyone in India (anyone who's ever heard of him of course!) and we'll all attest to that!
So lets just bury t hatchet and move on!!
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