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    Default League Tables of Top Players by Countries

    I am creating league tables of top players by countries based upon data published by BWF.
    There are 3 tables for the top 16, 32 and 100.

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    Top 16 08/11/2012
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD Total +/-
    1 China 4 5 3 4 3 19
    2 Japan 2 1 3 4 1 11
    3 Korea 2 2 3 3 0 10
    4 Indonesia 3 0 3 0 3 9
    5 Denmark 2 1 1 1 2 7
    6 Chinese Taipei 0 2 1 1 1 5
    7 Thailand 0 2 1 0 1 4
    8 Malaysia 1 0 1 0 1 3
    9 Singapore 0 1 0 1 1 3
    10 Hong Kong 1 0 0 1 0 2
    11 Russia 0 0 0 1 1 2
    12 England/Scotland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    13 Germany 0 1 0 0 0 1
    14 India 0 1 0 0 0 1
    15 Poland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    16 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
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    Top 32 08/11/2012
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD Total +/-
    1 China 5 8 4 5 4 26
    2 Indonesia 6 0 6 5 6 23
    3 Japan 2 4 3 4 4 17
    4 Korea 2 2 3 3 3 13
    5 Malaysia 3 0 4 4 1 12
    6 Thailand 1 4 2 1 3 11
    7 Denmark 4 1 2 1 2 10
    8 India 3 2 1 1 1 8
    9 Chinese Taipei 1 3 1 1 1 7
    10 Germany 1 1 2 1 1 6
    11 Hong Kong 2 2 0 1 0 5
    12 Canada 0 1 0 1 1 3
    13 England 1 0 1 0 1 3
    14 Russia 0 0 1 1 1 3
    15 Singapore 0 1 0 1 1 3
    16 Poland 0 0 1 0 1 2
    17 U.S.A. 0 0 1 1 0 2
    18 Bulgaria 0 1 0 0 0 1
    19 England/Scotland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    20 Netherlands 0 1 0 0 0 1
    21 Spain 0 1 0 0 0 1
    22 Sweden 0 0 0 1 0 1
    23 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
    Code:
    Top 100 08/11/2012
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD Total +/-
    1 Indonesia 8 6 15 10 11 50
    2 China 7 9 5 9 7 37
    3 Japan 6 9 6 10 5 36
    4 Malaysia 10 4 11 7 4 36
    5 Denmark 9 3 6 3 7 28
    6 Korea 3 2 7 6 8 26
    7 England 4 1 4 7 6 22
    8 India 9 3 3 3 4 22
    9 Thailand 3 6 3 5 4 21
    10 Germany 3 2 4 4 6 19
    11 Chinese Taipei 3 3 5 3 3 17
    12 Netherlands 2 2 3 4 4 15
    13 Russia 3 3 2 3 3 14
    14 Singapore 2 4 2 2 4 14
    15 France 2 2 4 2 3 13
    16 Hong Kong 4 4 0 2 1 11
    17 U.S.A. 1 4 2 2 1 10
    18 Canada 0 3 1 3 2 9
    19 Poland 1 1 2 1 2 7
    20 Ukraine 2 2 1 0 2 7
    21 Austria 1 2 1 1 1 6
    22 Sweden 1 0 1 2 2 6
    23 Australia 0 1 1 1 2 5
    24 Czech Republic 2 1 0 1 1 5
    25 Scotland 0 2 1 1 1 5
    26 Switzerland 0 3 1 0 1 5
    27 Bulgaria 0 3 0 2 0 5
    28 Belgium 1 1 1 1 0 4
    29 Ireland 1 1 0 0 1 3
    30 South Africa 0 0 1 1 1 3
    31 England/Scotland 0 0 1 0 2 3
    32 Spain 1 2 0 0 0 3
    33 Turkey 0 2 0 1 0 3
    34 Croatia 0 0 1 0 1 2
    35 Finland 1 1 0 0 0 2
    36 Lithuania 1 1 0 0 0 2
    37 New Zealand 0 1 1 0 0 2
    38 Portugal 1 1 0 0 0 2
    39 Slovenia 1 1 0 0 0 2
    40 Vietnam 1 0 1 0 0 2
    41 Wales 0 0 1 1 0 2
    42 Belarus 0 1 0 0 0 1
    43 Brazil 1 0 0 0 0 1
    44 Estonia 1 0 0 0 0 1
    45 Guatemala 1 0 0 0 0 1
    46 Iceland 0 1 0 0 0 1
    47 Israel 1 0 0 0 0 1
    48 Italy 0 1 0 0 0 1
    49 Macau 0 0 0 1 0 1
    50 Mexico 0 0 1 0 0 1
    51 Philippines 0 0 1 0 0 1
    52 Slovakia 0 1 0 0 0 1
    53 Spain/France 0 0 0 1 0 1
    54 Sri Lanka 1 0 0 0 0 1
    55 Uganda 1 0 0 0 0 1
    Iím aiming to maintain these tables regularly, fortnightly or once a month.
    As always, feel free to chip in.
    So, watch this space.

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    Not much surprises for the top 16 and 32, but the top 100 is quite interesting.
    Indonesia top the 100 table with most top 100 ranked players, marginally more than the next 3, namely China, Japan and Malaysia with only 1 player between them.

    Not only that, Indonesia actually top the MD, XD and WD (share with Japan) as well.

    Another surprise is the mighty China only top in 1 category, WS (share with Japan).

    And, Malaysia actually has more top 100 MS players (10) than anyone else.

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    The surprise for me is that Korea has 10 in the top 16, but only 13 in the top 32 ...

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    I am not that surprised, as there's a difference between quality vs. quatity.

    1. Do you want to have say 2 players listed, but rank 1 and 2, or you want 10, only rank 91 to 100? To me, ranking after 32 is pretty much useless, as some rank 100+ can easily improve 30 spots, for a mini "hot streak".

    2. CHN (and I believe it maybe true for a few other power houses) sometimes will send "no name" players for tournaments, and they have to start with Qualification round due to lower ranking. However, this "no names" can sometimes end up in semi or even champion. I believe ZYL's is a good example, if I am not mistaken with another player.

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    1: Unfortunately reality isn't a place where you can choose to have the top two players; you have to work and train. Ultimately there must be a reason or their absence in the 16-32 bracket, and the semantic difference between quality and quantity isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    Not much surprises for the top 16 and 32, but the top 100 is quite interesting.
    Indonesia top the 100 table with most top 100 ranked players, marginally more than the next 3, namely China, Japan and Malaysia with only 1 player between them.

    Not only that, Indonesia actually top the MD, XD and WD (share with Japan) as well.

    Another surprise is the mighty China only top in 1 category, WS (share with Japan).

    And, Malaysia actually has more top 100 MS players (10) than anyone else.
    Even i am surprised to see that india has 9 MS players in top100.

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    updated to the ranking lists of 2013-05-02;

    Code:
    Top16
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD total
    1 China 3 3 3 3 2 14
    2 Indonesia 2 1 2 1 6 12
    3 Japan 2 2 2 3 1 10
    4 Korea 0 2 2 4 0 8
    5 Malaysia 3 0 3 0 1 7
    5 Thailand 1 2 1 2 1 7
    7 Denmark 1 1 1 1 2 6
    8 Germany 0 1 1 0 1 3
    8 Hong Kong 2 0 0 1 0 3
    8 India 1 2 0 0 0 3
    11 Chinese Taipei 0 2 0 0 0 2
    11 Singapore 0 0 0 1 1 2
    13 Poland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    13 Russia 0 0 1 0 0 1
    13 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
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    Top32
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD total
    1 Indonesia 5 3 5 6 6 25
    2 China 6 5 4 4 3 22
    3 Malaysia 4 0 6 3 3 16
    4 Japan 3 4 3 3 1 14
    4 Thailand 2 5 2 3 2 14
    6 Korea 0 2 3 5 3 13
    7 Denmark 3 1 2 1 3 10
    8 England 0 0 2 2 3 7
    9 Hong Kong 2 2 0 1 1 6
    9 India 3 2 0 0 1 6
    11 Chinese Taipei 1 2 2 0 0 5
    11 Germany 1 1 1 1 1 5
    13 Russia 1 0 1 1 0 3
    13 Singapore 0 1 0 1 1 3
    15 France 0 1 0 0 1 2
    15 Netherlands 0 1 0 0 1 2
    15 Poland 0 0 1 0 1 2
    18 Bulgaria 0 1 0 0 0 1
    18 Spain 0 1 0 0 0 1
    18 Sweden 0 0 0 1 0 1
    18 U.S.A. 0 0 0 0 1 1
    18 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
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    Top100
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD total
    1 Indonesia 9 11 17 12 11 60
    2 China 8 11 6 10 5 40
    3 Japan 6 9 7 11 6 39
    3 Malaysia 11 5 11 7 5 39
    5 Korea 4 2 7 5 11 29
    6 India 10 6 4 3 5 28
    7 Thailand 4 7 4 6 6 27
    8 Denmark 10 4 3 3 5 25
    9 Chinese Taipei 3 4 5 6 3 21
    9 England 3 2 5 4 7 21
    11 Germany 3 3 5 2 5 18
    12 Russia 2 5 2 4 2 15
    13 Netherlands 1 2 3 2 4 12
    13 Singapore 2 4 1 2 3 12
    15 Hong Kong 4 2 1 2 2 11
    16 France 2 1 2 2 3 10
    17 Canada 0 3 1 3 1 8
    18 Austria 2 1 1 1 1 6
    18 U.S.A. 1 1 2 1 1 6
    18 Ukraine 1 1 1 0 3 6
    21 Bulgaria 0 3 0 2 0 5
    21 Poland 0 0 2 1 2 5
    21 Sweden 2 0 1 1 1 5
    24 Belgium 0 1 1 1 1 4
    24 Czech Republic 2 1 0 0 1 4
    24 New Zealand 0 1 1 2 0 4
    24 Switzerland 0 2 1 0 1 4
    28 Ireland 1 1 0 0 1 3
    28 Scotland 0 1 0 1 1 3
    28 Spain 1 2 0 0 0 3
    28 Wales 0 1 1 1 0 3
    32 Croatia 0 0 1 0 1 2
    32 Lithuania 1 1 0 0 0 2
    32 Slovenia 1 1 0 0 0 2
    35 Australia 0 0 0 1 0 1
    35 Belarus 0 1 0 0 0 1
    35 Cuba 1 0 0 0 0 1
    35 Finland 1 0 0 0 0 1
    35 Guatemala 1 0 0 0 0 1
    35 Israel 1 0 0 0 0 1
    35 Macau 0 0 0 1 0 1
    35 Mexico 0 0 0 0 1 1
    35 Norway 0 0 1 0 0 1
    35 Philippines 0 0 1 0 0 1
    35 South Africa 0 0 0 1 0 1
    35 Sri Lanka 1 0 0 0 0 1
    35 Turkey 0 0 0 1 0 1
    35 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1

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    this is quality thread!

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    Nice one, AlanY. Thanks for the hard work

    Be careful though. Unfortunately, this is exactly the kind of thread quite vulnerable to some chauvinistic comments & counter-comments. One or two "sensitive" posts might be enough to entice certain troublemaker to invade the thread, and then...

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    Looking at that last top 100 can anyone tell me, Does the fact that Indonesia have the most players by a big margin tell us that they are more prone to go independent(go it on their own) than any other country or is Indonesia spending more money than anyone else sending mass amounts of people around to tournaments?

    I know there are a lot of tournament around SE Asia that is easy for them to get to on their own which might play a part, but you think then Malaysia would mirror them. Any ideas?
    Last edited by craigandy; 05-02-2013 at 09:04 AM.

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    Won't be hard to be in top 100, just participate in 10 ss tourney main round and you are there

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    Meh, as if the registration + flight + lodging + etc etc costs are cheap. While lots of athletes already find it hard just to find sponsors & funding, the so-called "badminton nations" send their athletes virtually to every tournaments out there so generously that some people begin to take their participation for granted

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibelieveindevil View Post
    Won't be hard to be in top 100, just participate in 10 ss tourney main round and you are there
    I want to but I can not

    That would be nice, take part in 10 ss, never mind losing in the first round but I don't have a ranking to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by sen View Post
    I want to but I can not

    That would be nice, take part in 10 ss, never mind losing in the first round but I don't have a ranking to begin with
    The paradox is you needed to be in the top 100 to have a chance to play in the SS

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    not much movement after bwf's 30/05/2013 listings with Sudirman Cup results.
    so let's have a look at the current top 10 in the 5 individual disciplines;

    Top 10
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD total
    1 China 2 3 3 2 2 12
    2 Indonesia 1 0 1 1 4 7
    3 Japan 1 1 1 3 0 6
    4 Denmark 1 1 1 1 1 5
    4 Korea 0 1 2 2 0 5
    6 Malaysia 1 0 2 0 1 4
    6 Thailand 1 1 0 1 1 4
    8 India 1 1 0 0 0 2
    9 Chinese Taipei 0 1 0 0 0 1
    9 Germany 0 1 0 0 0 1
    9 Hong Kong 1 0 0 0 0 1
    9 Poland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    9 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
    Total 10 10 10 10 10 0

    well, it's no surprise that China is right at the top but the overall looks very healthy and promising.

    we have 9 countries in the MS top 10 and 8 countries in the WS top 10.
    although the XD is dominated by INA with 4 pairs in the top 10, but overall all 3 doubles are represented by 6 countries.

    quite a good spread IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    not much movement after bwf's 30/05/2013 listings with Sudirman Cup results.
    so let's have a look at the current top 10 in the 5 individual disciplines;

    Top 10
    Rank Country MS WS MD WD XD total
    1 China 2 3 3 2 2 12
    2 Indonesia 1 0 1 1 4 7
    3 Japan 1 1 1 3 0 6
    4 Denmark 1 1 1 1 1 5
    4 Korea 0 1 2 2 0 5
    6 Malaysia 1 0 2 0 1 4
    6 Thailand 1 1 0 1 1 4
    8 India 1 1 0 0 0 2
    9 Chinese Taipei 0 1 0 0 0 1
    9 Germany 0 1 0 0 0 1
    9 Hong Kong 1 0 0 0 0 1
    9 Poland 0 0 0 0 1 1
    9 Vietnam 1 0 0 0 0 1
    Total 10 10 10 10 10 0

    well, it's no surprise that China is right at the top but the overall looks very healthy and promising.

    we have 9 countries in the MS top 10 and 8 countries in the WS top 10.
    although the XD is dominated by INA with 4 pairs in the top 10, but overall all 3 doubles are represented by 6 countries.

    quite a good spread IMHO.
    Have you considered the retirement of players as well?? I mean , for eg. Tine Baun etc. If so, India will have 2 players in Top 10 for WS category.

    Nice work by you. I really appreciate that.. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion1 View Post
    Have you considered the retirement of players as well?? I mean , for eg. Tine Baun etc. If so, India will have 2 players in Top 10 for WS category.

    Nice work by you. I really appreciate that.. Thanks
    No, they are straight from bwf's listings.

    Denmark is the only country other than China has top 10 players in all 5 disciplines.
    As you point out after T Baun retirement that wouldn't last long.
    Last edited by AlanY; 06-04-2013 at 09:17 AM.

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