Bodin Issara / Maneepong Jongjit

**madbad** · 10-23-2012, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

I think their weakness has been brutally exposed by Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong. Instead of playing the flat fast exchanges, just lift and lift and lift and lift...

Originally Posted by visor

^^ imo, in that match, their coach was just as much to blame for not instructing them to play smarter instead falling into KooTan's wonderfully set trap.

Trap? I thought that was the only way they played these days, haha

**mensa0106** · 10-23-2012, 01:35 AM

something wrong with issara smash..i noticed dat he's not using vtzf ltd in dat game..not sure wat racket he used..last time when he used vtzf, he smash like hell..jongjit also did many mistakes..by d way, koo/tan also getting better dis days..

**visor** · 10-23-2012, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by madbad

Trap? I thought that was the only way they played these days, haha

Haha... that match almost looked like a training session... where one side has to practice smashes and the other defensive lifts... which KooTan appear to have improved significantly. They are actually lifting all the way to the opposite corners making the poor Thai boys run back and forth between both rear corners so much that I think Issara was out of breath after only 3 points!

**george@chongwei** · 10-23-2012, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by mensa0106

something wrong with issara smash..i noticed dat he's not using vtzf ltd in dat game..not sure wat racket he used..last time when he used vtzf, he smash like hell..jongjit also did many mistakes..by d way, koo/tan also getting better dis days..

Did bodin still shout loudly after getting a point?

**Licin** · 10-23-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

Did bodin still shout loudly after getting a point?

I think he does not have the energy already to shout at that match, george. Being drained by our favorite Koo-Tan.

**Licin** · 10-23-2012, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by mensa0106

something wrong with issara smash..i noticed dat he's not using vtzf ltd in dat game..not sure wat racket he used..last time when he used vtzf, he smash like hell..jongjit also did many mistakes..by d way, koo/tan also getting better dis days..

demolidor on the other thread mentioned that Bodin Issara used NR800. From VTZF to NR800, dramatic change.

**Blurry D** · 10-23-2012, 09:38 PM

The duos really have the Thai spirit in them. They might be aggressive in court and etc but they are always full of smile and very respectful.

The shouting is very Thai as it is their War Cry just like the Haka. If you do watch Thai boxing you will notice the resemblance. I am impressed with this pair. Give a few more competition they will be a pair to watch out for. New pairs like that can change their tactics easily. Old habits die hard.

**visor** · 10-24-2012, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Licin

demolidor on the other thread mentioned that Bodin Issara used NR800. From VTZF to NR800, dramatic change.

Wow... indeed... now I'll have to rethink whether I should even get the NR800 to try. It was probably the wrong weapon for him as he's a smasher and not really one to play flat drives.

**Licin** · 10-24-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by visor

Wow... indeed... now I'll have to rethink whether I should even get the NR800 to try. It was probably the wrong weapon for him as he's a smasher and not really one to play flat drives.

Yes visor. I think the same way as you, NR800 might not be an appropriate weapon for him, he needs a racket that has a lot of raw power instead.

**undeadshot** · 10-24-2012, 10:23 AM

Other pairs who have watched the match between KKK/TBH and the Thai pair would probably start learning how to deal with them. It so happens that the Thai pair is new and there weren't any counter-strategies that made them so strong in the first place, particularly against KSH/YYS who prefers to do a more aggressive defence rather than KKK/TBH's lift, lift and lift.

I expect them to perform pretty much below expectations until they learn how to rectify their play.

**Jagdpanther** · 10-24-2012, 11:11 AM

^^^

Agree with you. There is no such thing as "invincibility".

**mensa0106** · 10-24-2012, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Licin

Yes visor. I think the same way as you, NR800 might not be an appropriate weapon for him, he needs a racket that has a lot of raw power instead.

i think vtzf ltd just fit him very well before this..wonder why he changed to nr800

**Licin** · 10-25-2012, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by mensa0106

i think vtzf ltd just fit him very well before this..wonder why he changed to nr800

Yeah. I am also questioning this. Young players will have the advantage of power and agility. That is why they need to build their stamina extremely well in order to maintain their speed and power along the tourneys in every high level game. Speed improvement gained by using NR800 does not compensate the power forgone, not beneficial IMO.

Professional player have trained their muscle really well. At a certain point, if they are used to a head heavy racket, head light racket will give them hollow feeling at the point of hitting the shuttle. As they are a pro player, the decision taken to change racket have been thought over and over again. The racket have already been tested on a training before, if they have brought that racket to a match, they are 100% sure that they are making the right decision. Furthermore, their coach are always there to give them some inputs.