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08-01-2012, 07:16 PM #341
08-01-2012, 10:57 PM #342
If you think RR is the problem then all of you have forgetten about previous Olymp. I was Chen Jien vs Lin Dan in Semi in last Olymp, I am very sure you will use the same arguements? is all about concience and morality.
Ask youself will you do it ?
08-01-2012, 11:10 PM #343
08-01-2012, 11:38 PM #344
Anyone have the video match between korea's ha/kim vs ina's pair ? Would like to have a look at it.. Surely it's not as disgusting as the other korean pair against the china pair match right?
08-01-2012, 11:46 PM #345
08-01-2012, 11:52 PM #346
08-01-2012, 11:52 PM #347
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08-02-2012, 02:39 AM #348
just saw clips of the match, it was excrutiatingly painful to watch knowing what they were trying to do.
08-02-2012, 04:04 AM #349
Well, with a few days left here in London, i heard the players who've been DQ'ed are now free to go and do sightseeing and most importantly shop til they drop.. ..(j/k)
On a serious note:
- The damage has been done. But indeed it's very good BWF made the decision to ban/DQ all 4 pairs/8 players. IMO, it was the right thing to do..Y'day at the stadium, after the announcement was made of the decision, another spectator overheard us and she asked abt and mentioned/agreed it was a good decision.
At the same time, i also thought the decision was also made possibly because this is the Olympics (the whole world is watching) and definitely the IOC will be on BWF's tail if they don't do anything abt. With the reputation and the likelihood that badminton could be eliminated for good after the 2016 OG, should BWF not made their decision y'day, i would imagine IOC could definitely eliminate badminton as early as from the 2016 OG.
On the other hand, I would imagine, if this was the AE, WC or any related BWF only tourney, BWF might've not gone the extra mile to ban/DQ all 4 pairs.
- We shall see whether any similar stunt will come up again in the future; it will be up to entirely BWF to enforce it and the players/teams/coaches to follow thru.
I do hope, from this experience, LYB and any other countries who'll try to do this kind of act again will not do so in the future. Let this be a learning lesson and experience..2008 Thomas Cup debacle (KOREAN TC team) should've taught everyone abt pulling similar stunt in the future..But i guess lesson not learnt.
It is a truly embarrassing way to learn a lesson, but if it takes this moment to teach everyone a lesson, it is what it is.
Last edited by ctjcad; 08-02-2012 at 04:07 AM.
08-02-2012, 04:40 AM #350
08-02-2012, 05:09 AM #351
so it should be:
Do by all means = have the ability and chance, to do is a must = big time loser
Can not do = never have such ability and chance, but acting like saint = innocent
So, please, practice what you preach. Do not bend your principal whenever it suits you.
08-02-2012, 03:10 PM #352
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08-02-2012, 03:23 PM #353
But for now, let me just continue benting and twisiting in my ugly twisted world.
08-02-2012, 04:57 PM #354
The female players that got DQed would have gotten much more respect from me if they had been "serious" about the loosing and just missed everything. What annoyed me is the godawful acting with shouting and high-five and stuff.. That is where their moral compass went totally wrong I think..
They would have earned my respect if they made it clear that they did think format was bad and unfair, and made this just as much as a statment aboiut that, not messing about, just simply hit EVERYTHING in the net, and being honest about it.. Then they would have got my full respect.. The "oooh noo. I missed that one, I am so upset" acting was NOT the right thing to do, and the poor acting ticked me of more than the actual effort to loose.
But honesly I saw more humor in it than a scandal..
The real scandal is that they didn't implement the round robin and elimination rounds in a fair manner:
1) Only one team per country allowed
2) Group-placement due to draw/seeding
3) group stage matches sceduled to take place simultaneosly.
4) re-draw based on result for elimination round.. I aslo like the system employed in for example beach wolley where some 3rds and even 4th place finishers (due to lucky loosesr qualification) can get into the elimination draw.
BWF are the real clowns here!!
P.S. It would have been much more refreshing if the Chineese girls would have said.. Yes we did this because we wanted the chance of getting both gold and silver medals for our country, which possibility would have been denied if we won that gaem. And that the Koreans and Indonesian would have said.. Yes we did this simply to avoid having to play the strong chineese pair early in the elimination tournament, becuase we felt we would loose to them and that would destroy our hopes of medals.
P.P.S. It would have been even better if the Japaneese girls stepped up and admitted that they threw the game against Taiwan, now, instead of in their memoirs in 20 years time as well.. For them to stand on the podium getting the silver medal leaves sort of a bad taste in the light of all the other disqualifications.
Last edited by twobeer; 08-02-2012 at 05:12 PM.
08-02-2012, 05:25 PM #355
Not trying your best =\= deliberately losing a game on purpose.
If the Korean's had gone 100% they would of destroyed China 21-3 the way the Chinese were playing, but no the Koreans served into the net too to make it a farce. If they had gone 100%, don't think they would get DQed.
Anyways, just watched Bruce Li play Japan WD pair and lost, good effort, they will face Russia for the Bronze Medal Match. Canada and Japan gave it their 100%, and they deserve to be where they are cause they're there in the true Olympic Spirit. I hope the Japanese kick China's ass in the finals!
08-02-2012, 05:35 PM #356
Can you tell me if Bolt or Phelps win every single heat, before taking the gold? Or say, you ask Phelps put on a meaningless heat (say, exhibition against whoever), do you think he will go all out?
To make it more interesting, imagine Bolt or Phelps will take a RR format qualification, instead of the current format. If they are well into the final, you think they will not tank the very last heat to save energy?
A better example is, last year's NBA playoff. Mem. Grizzles on purposely tanked the last few games, to be #8, to go against #1 spurs (knowing they have injuries issues at the last min. on Manu). Then, as they planned, they upset the spurs, and advanced. Did you see Grizzles got banned? No, instead, they got painted as the "smart strategiest" and "upcoming force"...
Last edited by LazyBuddy; 08-02-2012 at 05:38 PM.
08-02-2012, 05:44 PM #357
The thing about the matches between the teams that actually got disqualified was that the result really only affected the teams themselves, the other throwdown that was discussed was worse imop as it actually affected which teams got trough to the elimination draw.
Last edited by twobeer; 08-02-2012 at 05:48 PM.