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    badminton finally makes the headlines in the UK and it's for all the wrong reasons

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    I watched YY/WXL match against the KOR cuties, that match should be on U-Tube, the most laughable pro game played anywhere and YY/WXL tried their comical best to replay a missed serve or retrieve, looked up the lighting (okay, blame the Brits for that terrible lights design) and the CHN coaches actually came on at interval to 'coach', that is near Oscar performance...ROFLMAO
    I actually wonder what would Dr Kang (IOC boss) ask Miss Li Ling Wei who just joined IOC as a full member (Dr. Boss said Li is the best ambassador of badminton from CHN and Miss Li being CHN OLY council member and BWF council member), what Li think of the game.
    I can guarantee and bet my 2 bucks Miss Li would agree with the gang of 4 (i.e. OTB, TwoBeer, V1Lau, Kenjai7373 and counting my recruits...) that CHN does not fix match, we win them cleanly and that WD match was just a bad day at the office

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    not try. all 4 pairs, one from China, two from Korea, and one from Indonesia.
    ...just trying to question the title of this thread..

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    Saw the match, what a disgrace for all teams involved.

    If this happened in any other sport (ie: Tennis), the players would have been disqualified, fined, and banned for 'unsportsman-like behaviour'.

    Then again, whats new? China has been doing this as far as I can remember, with walkovers and deliberate losses the norm when they meet each other.

    Disqualify, fine, and ban them for a year, I say. What better arena to send a strong and clear message that these sort of cheap tactics will not be tolerated. They cheated the spectators of their tickets, making a farce of the sport, embarrassing badminton on a world stage, it also subtracts from the prestige of this tournament. It will always be remembered as an orchestrated dirty manipulation of the standings.

    Swimming has Eric the Eel, swimming in the face of extreme adversity and challenge. Athletics has Luz Long, the German athlete who dared oppose Hitler right in front of him in the name of sportsmanship and the Olympic spirit. Sailing has Lawrence Lemeiux, who abandoned his second position, giving up his silver medal to save two sailors who capsized.

    And badminton has Wang Xiaoli and Yu Yang, Jung Kyung-eun and Kim Ha-na Ha, Jung-eun and Kim Min-jung, Meiliana Jauhari and Greysia Polii, who proved that in badminton, there is nothing as sinking too low in pursuit of a medal. Who proved that there is no an inch of sportsmanship in them. What a disgrace.

    Shame on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post
    Defenders of CHN being called 'match fixers', 'cheaters' yadayada...
    So far we have
    V1Lau
    TwoBeer (even though he is missing in action in this thread)
    Kenjai7373
    otb...(err, okay count me in to keep V1Lau company)
    and who else...against the rest of the BC gang who accuse our great comrades
    Please read more carefully Onetoughbirdie, my original point is that BWF can't do anything, because the BWF's decision to use a group format without thinking it through, is basically what the caused this problem. Then Demolidor proposed they be DQ for breaking the Olympic oath, I disagreed because the language of the text is vague and open to interpretation and probably wouldn't holdup as a valid reason for DQ in my opinion.

    I want everyone involved to be DQ'ed and suspended for at least 6months including the National Coaches, I hope that is clear enough for you COMRADE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1lau View Post
    Please read more carefully Onetoughbirdie, my original point is that BWF can't do anything, because the BWF's decision to use a group format without thinking it through, is basically what the caused this problem. Then Demolidor proposed they be DQ for breaking the Olympic oath, I disagreed because the language of the text is vague and open to interpretation and probably wouldn't holdup as a valid reason for DQ in my opinion.

    I want everyone involved to be DQ'ed and suspended for at least 6months including the National Coaches, I hope that is clear enough for you COMRADE!
    I think he is posting in jest (although his delivery could be better)

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    I think he is posting in jest (although his delivery could be better)
    His Delivery is fine, it's the accuracy that I have an objection to

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    I dont even know why there's an argument on this... ofc the Chinese lost so they wouldnt face the other Chinese pair before the next round and if they didnt CORRECTLY doubt Korea's intention to do the same they wouldve just put a nice lil show like LD.

    But who cares? I much rather see a pointless group match being throw than the semi-finals when both Chinese pairs meet.

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    Just watched last half of game 2.

    Pathetic. Disgraceful.

    Unfortunately, those terms not only applies to the players (especially the CHN ones, as we know that they're more than capable of what they've displayed), but also to the coaches and the Olympic committee who came up with this playoff format.

    Afterall the players are young and are in some way forced to listen to their coaches guidance, however wrong and disgraceful it may be. Can you imagine if you were the athlete who didn't obey and went against the plan? You would be punished severely and made an example of to the rest of the team ... back in the motherland after the games are over, of course.

    Having said that, if I were the tournament referee reviewing this case, I'd definitely without a doubt fine or punish the loser of this match with disqualification. Why... because they were the ones who were succesful in achieving their plan. Viewing the match, you'd also see the more obvious unforced errors and acting when they made an error.

    They're lucky I didn't attend the match, otherwise I'd have immediately gone out to buy shuttles and started throwing at them.

    Pathetic. Disgraceful.

    Addendum: If I were the KOR players, knowing that I was winning in the second game, I'd have gone all out to pound the cr@p and sh1t out of the CHN players!
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    opps.. it seems I posted on the other thread twice

    here is the summary I get from Indonesian team point of view:

    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    OK so let me clarify what happens in the INA VS KOR match today
    I got it from PBSI website:
    http://pb-pbsi.org/app/information/newsDetail.aspx?/1175

    This is what Mel Grey coach (Paulus Firman) said:

    both of the team wants to avoid to meet Wang Xiaoli/Yu Yang in quarter final

    what happened?
    this is all happened when Wang and Yu tried to lose and become runner up

    So what do you said to Mel and Grey?
    both of us (INA and KOR) wants to avoid Wang and Yu. however I asked Grey and Mel to fight. even if they meet Wang and Yu, it is OK as long as they tried to fight back

    why referee almost give the black card?
    referee gave many warnings to both team, but both of them didn't fight at all
    so referee wanted to give the black card to both team.
    after that, INA and KOR team discuss with the referee. they said they will fight for real now
    after that the referee put back the black card

    it seems that you were debating about something with KOR coach, what happened?
    KOR coach said we are not fighting for real
    they said it is better not to fight.

    P.S: they put all of the blame to CHN pair (Wang / Yu)
    if Wang / Yu win the game, both team (INA and KOR) would fight to death to avoid to meet Wang / Yu


    P.S.S: KOR team would bring this incident to BWF
    INA team would also do the same


    Personal opinion (yes above is what they said from PBSI website): KOR team should also bring the CHN VS KOR incident, not only INA VS KOR one

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    What's the problem, guys!? If there is anything wrong with it, it's the rules that were set by the BWF. They are to blame for this disaster, nobody else (like the time table changes etc. at the beginning of the olympics)

    Professional athletes want to win. If chances to win are bigger by losing, then they'll choose to go this route. Everything else, I'd call unprofessional.

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    I hope both this China WD pair lost before medal round... they spoil the whole olympic

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    Group format is good to make sure players don't go all the way to London and only play 1 match and go home as long as only the top 1 player or team (instead of top 2) in each group can advance.

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    All four teams should be turfed. Kwun has already seen my rant on facebook. I think Yongbo is prick who needs to be botch slapped.

    Pathetic and a back eye for the sport. There is not an argument out there that will ever sway me from looking at this akin to CHEATING in the context of the Olympic games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qidong View Post
    Group format is good to make sure players don't go all the way to London and only play 1 match and go home as long as only the top 1 player or team (instead of top 2) in each group can advance.

    Right, it's the rules!

    So I'd like to see people who are responsible for this to get the black card and loose their job! They did damage to the image of Badminton by not thinking through the group format rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post
    I watched YY/WXL match against the KOR cuties, that match should be on U-Tube, the most laughable pro game played anywhere and YY/WXL tried their comical best to replay a missed serve or retrieve, looked up the lighting (okay, blame the Brits for that terrible lights design) and the CHN coaches actually came on at interval to 'coach', that is near Oscar performance...ROFLMAO
    I actually wonder what would Dr Kang (IOC boss) ask Miss Li Ling Wei who just joined IOC as a full member (Dr. Boss said Li is the best ambassador of badminton from CHN and Miss Li being CHN OLY council member and BWF council member), what Li think of the game.
    I can guarantee and bet my 2 bucks Miss Li would agree with the gang of 4 (i.e. OTB, TwoBeer, V1Lau, Kenjai7373 and counting my recruits...) that CHN does not fix match, we win them cleanly and that WD match was just a bad day at the office
    hehe
    yes,they will be the one of the contender for oscar,along with lin dan and chen jin

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