CHN/KOR/INA WD pair disqualified from the Olympics

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:08 AM

Well, all 4 pairs involved are disqualified. Confirmed, because the QF is already underway with the 3rd and 4th teams in Groups A and C upgraded.

This is a windfall for Sorokina/Vislova who are suddenly huge favourites for the bronze.

**KZ** · 08-01-2012, 11:11 AM

i predict...WD gold DEN silver CHN bronze RUS

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:12 AM

Clips from the CHN-KOR match can be found here
http://video.2012.sina.com.cn/p/olym...861819973.html

Only shows a few rallies. Need to watch the whole match, really, to form a fair opinion.

**uniclone** · 08-01-2012, 11:12 AM

I think the question here is... How do you make possible that 1st & 2nd seed cant meet in the SF let alone the Finals...? How was the groups selected?

**morpheus** · 08-01-2012, 11:16 AM

I totally disliked what I saw and couldn't bear to finish it. I think the 4 pairs deserved to be disqualified. Put that aside.

There are 2 different reasons for the 4 pairs to do what they did.

1. They wanted to lose because they didn't want to face teammates.
2. They wanted to lose because they were too afraid of their opponents.

The reason 1 is part of the 'team system' (e.g formula 1, cycling, etc.). It won't hurt them for long.

But for the reason 2, that is 'self-disrespect' and it will live with them forever.

**hcpoirot** · 08-01-2012, 11:17 AM

Badminton in jeopardy to appear in next OLympic. Though its far from big scandal like doping in athletics did. But athletics is very very famous sport where badminton is not.

**LazyBuddy** · 08-01-2012, 11:21 AM

Ok, fine, let me be the bad guy again, and let's shot all the darts at me.

As fans, we are upset. However, let's try to be in LYB, KOR and INA coach and players' shoes for 1 second.

The IOC/BWF has the rules to limit you entries, which leave tons of your talents at HOME, while other ranking 100+ dancing on the court. Sure, they spread out the common wealth, at the cost of your own blood, and chance to get a medal (or even risk your own career and job).

The BWF setup this crazy round robin format, to spread out the common wealth again??? Again, they know the format is in-perfect, and have holes.

Now, you see the light at the end of the tunnel, and try to take advantage of it to boost up your already well-damaged chance... BOOM, now, the official are suddenly acting like god, and give you a death penalty...

Some times, the official needs to get real, as the world is not perfect. So, everyone has the rights to use whatever s/he is gain to boost his/her own chance to survive, especially these are the ones already suffered at the beginning, and giving out their wealth to others at the 1st place. Now, try to use the god standard on the ones actually sacrifice to begin with, especially WITHOUT any hard evidence (ok, ok, booing, stats, whatever you and me feel, are NOT HARD EVIDENCE)...

Sure, they deserve some punishment, but give the iron fist with death penalty to the nations actually spread out the wealth... Well, I do not know...

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by uniclone

I think the question here is... How do you make possible that 1st & 2nd seed cant meet in the SF let alone the Finals...? How was the groups selected?

If top half A1 v B2, B1 v A2
bottom half C1 v D2, D1 v C2
and 1st seed in A, 2nd seed in D
then top two seeds guaranteed not to meet each other until the final.

However, BWF wanted to avoid pairs from the same group meeting each other until the final.
Given the system above, if A1 and A2 both won their QF matches, they will meet again in the SF.
Basically, BWF does not want that, therefore they came up with
Top half, A1 v C2, B1 v D2
bottom, C1 v A2, D1 v B2
But of course, in this case, the top two seeds could play each other in the SF.

**Loh** · 08-01-2012, 11:24 AM

It appears that KOR's appeal has been rejected and INA has withdrawn it's own appeal.

BWF has good reason to stand firm in the face of other sports bodies' seemingly consensus support with it's prompt action. An IOC official said BWF's decision sends the right signal to the sports fraternity to punish wrong doers.

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by LazyBuddy

Ok, fine, let me be the bad guy again, and let's shot all the darts at me.

As fans, we are upset. However, let's try to be in LYB, KOR and INA coach and players' shoes for 1 second.

The IOC/BWF has the rules to limit you entries, which leave tons of your talents at HOME, while other ranking 100+ dancing on the court. Sure, they spread out the common wealth, at the cost of your own blood, and chance to get a medal (or even risk your own career and job).

The BWF setup this crazy round robin format, to spread out the common wealth again??? Again, they know the format is in-perfect, and have holes.

Now, you see the light at the end of the tunnel, and try to take advantage of it to boost up your already well-damaged chance... BOOM, now, the official are suddenly acting like god, and give you a death penalty...

Some times, the official needs to get real, as the world is not perfect. So, everyone has the rights to use whatever s/he is gain to boost his/her own chance to survive, especially these are the ones already suffered at the beginning, and giving out their wealth to others at the 1st place. Now, try to use the god standard on the ones actually sacrifice to begin with, especially WITHOUT any hard evidence (ok, ok, booing, stats, whatever you and me feel, are NOT HARD EVIDENCE)...

Sure, they deserve some punishment, but give the iron fist with death penalty to the nations actually spread out the wealth... Well, I do not know...

I kinda agree with you, so I'll just throw one dart.

**hyun007** · 08-01-2012, 11:25 AM

Can't even bother watching Russia Vs South Africa.
It is as bad as watching the Chinese throwing the game.

Two of the Women quarter-finals becomes craps, thanks to BWF.
They should have let the Korean played as they won their match respectively even though they have no intention of winning, they still did it at a respectable margin where the losers should be really be disqualified.

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Loh

It appears that KOR's appeal has been rejected and INA has withdrawn it's own appeal.

BWF has good reason to stand firm in the face of other sports bodies' seemingly consensus support with it's prompt action. An IOC official said BWF's decision sends the right signal to the sports fraternity to punish wrong doers.

In my opinion, BWF is a weakling. In those competitions where they had absolute control, they did nothing. Now that IOC (big brother) is watching them, they mete out the highest penalty to show they are doing their job.

**bennydut** · 08-01-2012, 11:30 AM

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/videos/watch/badminton-match-fixing-scandal.html

--> The best match-fixing badminton video ever in HD!!! Enjoy!!!

**kar_mun** · 08-01-2012, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by hyun007

Can't even bother watching Russia Vs South Africa.
It is as bad as watching the Chinese throwing the game.

Two of the Women quarter-finals becomes craps, thanks to BWF.
They should have let the Korean played as they won their match respectively even though they have no intention of winning, they still did it at a respectable margin where the losers should be really disqualified.

Not the QF only, SF will be crap too. They should just skip QF and let the 4 remaining pairs play SF.

**hcyong** · 08-01-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by kar_mun

Not the QF only, SF will be crap too. They should just skip QF and let the 4 remaining pairs play SF.

Well, luckily WD is the one event we will skip watching, if we have to skip one.

**xXazn_romeoXx** · 08-01-2012, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Sandy

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/was-...so-400594.html

Was India's doubles exit fixed? Jwala thinks so

by FP SportsAug 1, 2012

India's exit from the doubles competition was heartbreaking for everyone watching. But now Indian doubles star Jwala Gutta has alleged that matches in their group might have been fixed as well.

These allegations comes in the wake of a scandal involving women badminton players who �threw� matches to manipulate the draw, prompting jeers from the crowd and angering fans for undermining the spirit of the Games.

The World Badminton Federation charged eight players with misconduct on Wednesday after each team in two women�s Olympic doubles encounters tried to �throw� the matches to secure a more favourable draw later on.

�The pairs have been charged � with �not using one�s best efforts to win a match� and �conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport�,� the federation said in a statement.

Jwala and Ponappa think Japan fixed the match. Reuters

South Korea head coach Sung Han-kook said two of his teams had attempted to throw their matches against China�s world champion duo and an Indonesian team but added it was in retaliation against the Chinese team who instigated the farce.

He said they had deliberately tried to throw the first of the tainted matches to ensure their leading duo of Yu Yang and Wang Xiaoli would be sure not to meet China�s number two pair until the gold medal decider.

But so far, it was an allegation that had not reached Group B, which was the group that India was in.

�Japan is a strong team, we were shocked when they lost. I personally suspect foul play, it is shocking,� said Jwala Gutta.

�I�ve known them for quite a while and know the kind of game they play. Japanese are known to never give up and I know both the pairs and for me, it shouldn�t have been this easy.�

�They threw the match because they didn�t want to face the Chinese in the next round,� she further added. �Action should be taken against the guilty.�

The Indian team missed out on a quarter-final spot but just 1 point � Japan had a 4-point difference and India just had 3.

�I never expected that people to throw away the match. We have not been taught like that. We deserved to be in the quarter-finals,� said Jwala.

P Gopichand, India�s coach, said that the BWF was warned about such a situation arising in the manager�s meeting.

�In the manager�s meeting, this issue came up � the BWF just brushed it aside and said that it won�t happen,� said Gopichand.

Of course, this isn�t the first time such an issue is cropping up. Chinese coach Li Yongbo admitted that China fixed the semi-final of the 2004 Athens Olympics so that Zhang Ning would beat Zhou Mei and reach the final. Zhang eventually won the gold in Athens.

And South Korea have also done this in the Thomas Cup.

So... Jwala said that the Japanese are guilty of dropping their match against them, giving the Indians a point in the standings...

Yet the stands are Japan, and then India...

So... Jwala is really just upset... That Japan HELPED the Indians qualify for the quarterfinals!

Yet the Indians lost their remaining matches, and failed by a point. So THAT is the reason why they deserve to be in the quarterfinals!

Not because the other two teams (the TOP 2 teams) actually won the group!

Wow, troll if I ever saw one =]

**Staiger1** · 08-01-2012, 11:38 AM

No offense to those pairs who got given the place in QF , apart from not winning a match at all, their standard is as bad as those when both S.korean and China trying to loss the match ,,,,,, so it just ruin the whole competition, and they will be in the semi final out of nothing since they are playing against each other in the QF,

(they bloody hit their serve and return into the net anyway even if they try their hardest)

The only decent match with top quality badminton and competitiveness will be in the final

They should have just skipped the QF and straight in to SF with the 4 remaining pair