View Poll Results: who's to be blamed for the match throwing?
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The players are at fault for throw matches
BWF is to blame for implementing group structure
no one / other are to be blamed.
both players and BWF are to be blamed
08-04-2012, 03:39 AM #154
Olympics badminton: South Korea sorry over match-throwing row
BBC Sport, 3 August 2012
The head of South Korea's badminton delegation has issued an apology over the Olympics match-throwing scandal, the Yonhap news agency reports.
Two pairs from South Korea, along with a pair from China and Indonesia, were disqualified from the women's doubles.
They were accused of wanting to lose, in an attempt to manipulate the draw for the knockout stage.
"I deeply apologize for tainting the honour of Korea," said head badminton coach Sung Han-kook.
"I recognise my failure to live up to the responsibility as the head coach to properly manage the athletes."
The players were accused of "not using one's best efforts to win" and "conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport".
South Korean appealed over the expulsion of pairs Jung Kyung-eun and Kim Ha-na and third seeds Ha Jung-Eun and Kim Min-Jung, but it was rejected by the Badminton World Federation.
China's head coach Li Yongbo has also issued an apology after the world number one pairing pair of Yu Yang and Wang Xiaoli were also disqualified as part of the controversy.
Yu also went on Chinese state television to say:"First of all, I want to apologise to our fans. We didn't play with the Olympic spirit. It has reflected very badly on us."
08-04-2012, 03:43 AM #155
Olympics badminton: Coaches of disqualified players face probe
BBC Sport, 2 August 2012
..."It's important to make sure it's not just the athletes that are punished," said IOC spokesman Mark Adams.
...British Olympic Association chairman Lord Moynihan said the format now needed to be investigated
He said: "It is unacceptable for any athlete not to give it their best.
"I don't think it is wise to have a format which could create the environment and conditions [for that to happen] and I'm sure the BWF will have to look at the implications of this."
Chinese Olympic officials have already demanded that the players involved in the scandal "reflect deeply on it" and "publicly apologise".
...China's badminton coach Li Yongbo said he should take the blame for the incident, which Chinese state media said "violates the Olympic spirit of fair competition".
"As head coach, I owe the supporters of Chinese badminton and the Chinese TV audiences an apology," the Xinhua news agency quoted him as saying.
"Chinese players failed to demonstrate the fine tradition and fighting spirit of the national team. It's me to blame."
08-04-2012, 03:45 AM #156
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08-04-2012, 05:27 AM #158
mmm. Guess I didn't miss much when I more or less quit badminton years ago.
08-04-2012, 02:17 PM #159
Song Tribute To The Disqualified Players....Bye bye black sheep have you any wordsYes sir yes sir been threated like a foolOne by the master (BWF) who sleep all the wayAnd one by the cocky coach who lead me down the drain
08-04-2012, 05:55 PM #160
the poll seems to be missing a possible choice, 'Li Yonbo (and the politically higher up) the ultimate douchebag' - i will pick this one. i havent read through all the posts, but my choice probably just echoes many of the same on the forum.
08-04-2012, 08:47 PM #161
08-05-2012, 12:52 AM #162
I personally think the coaches are to be blame because they the ones who instruct players what to do when they in the court.
08-05-2012, 01:30 AM #163
However, there is a distinction because the WD players are deliberately choosing their draw, but in athletics, there is no such thing as a draw; you run with everyone else in the next round. So, there is not even the slightest hint of scandal if Johnson or Bolt does not finish first in the heats.
08-05-2012, 01:53 AM #164
This reminds me of the riddle where a man told both his sons to race their camels, but the catch is that the one with the slower camel will get all his inheritance. So, it's obvious both sons will try to lose (if the inheritance is what each wants). Of course, we all know (I think) how it ends. Unfortunately, the solution cannot be applied to badminton.
08-05-2012, 01:56 AM #165
Any of the BWF idiot policy makers get punished yet?
08-05-2012, 01:59 AM #166
But they just had to go through with the whole shenanigan.
08-05-2012, 02:17 AM #167
08-05-2012, 07:27 AM #168
1. BWF official words means it is "right" for all intensive purposes, untill you start some break off tour (by the way this is not a democratic world hahaha do some reading)
2. Intentionally breaking rules is cheating my friend
3. "In fact, they didn't cheat, they want to lose that match and did play to lose." hahahah it says in the rules not to do this.
08-05-2012, 07:44 AM #169
Japan's women soccer coach Sakai was forced to defend himself against accusations from other rival coaches for fixing the game against South Africa, by ordering his team not to win. The objective was to internationally place Japan at second place behind Sweden.
FIFA investigated but found insufficient evidence for disciplinary action. Do you think FIFA has a strong record for disciplinary action other than against those involved in internal politics for position jockeying?
08-05-2012, 11:35 AM #170