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    This tournament could have been different if Sony Dwi Kuncoro had qualified for the olympics... LCW and LD actually fear him in major tournaments.

    Eventhough his ranking is low but he can cause many problems for the two because of his different style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julianng View Post
    This tournament could have been different if Sony Dwi Kuncoro had qualified for the olympics... LCW and LD actually fear him in major tournaments.

    Eventhough his ranking is low but he can cause many problems for the two because of his different style.
    right. if i didn't injured my left wrist years ago the whole history of badminton MS has to be rewritten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    right. if i didn't injured my left wrist years ago the whole history of badminton MS has to be rewritten.
    umm... No. Because your not nearly as good as LD is and your wrist would get injured anyway just by playing 5 points with LD.

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    If you look back at MSF in Olympic history, physical and technical ability were never the most important factors that made the champions win. The mental strenth, the determination to win the game and 100% concentration on the game is the key characters you need to stick to the end of the game. In 1996, 2000 the Gold medalists defeated the hottest seeded athletes. And in many other matchs as in MX, WD and WS the history just repeat again and again.

    In the final both LD and LCW made much more errors comparing with last year London WC final. It's understandable since this Olympic is the last one for their career. LCW's mental strenth is more better than before actually esp in 1st game. However in Set 2 and 3 LCW was affected adversely by some snatches and lost some golden point consecutively. LD also made more mistakes than before however he just has the mental ability to keep his mind concentrated on the game but not the point losted or he's been left behind.

    At the same time LD is much more experienced than LCW to deal with last few determine points. LD can pick up speed and not fear to make any errors while LCW obviously is just following up LD's moves. You'll find it even more interesting if you find out in most of the time during the whole game LD is following LCW.

    IMO both of them have equal level of physical and technical ability, but LD is more prepared and concentrated for the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staiger1 View Post
    It is treated ''as'' the world championship ,...but it is not the WC where you can call yourself the world champions. AE is not as well-known to the public , but I do take your point as AE being one of the top title to win within a calender year and one that many top players wanted to win.

    well done !
    how u regard those former great of badminton before 1977 world championship introduce?
    there are no olympic game and asian game either.
    so in long history of badminton,we only have great and legend badminton player after world championship and olympic introduced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    right. if i didn't injured my left wrist years ago the whole history of badminton MS has to be rewritten.
    yeah,i might met u in the OG final while lcw and lin dan posting comment in bc
    hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by julianng View Post
    This tournament could have been different if Sony Dwi Kuncoro had qualified for the olympics... LCW and LD actually fear him in major tournaments.

    Eventhough his ranking is low but he can cause many problems for the two because of his different style.
    c'mon julianng, open your eyes, and your mind widely...

    at the level of plays as displayed by both Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei at the Grand Finale and those preceding matches on the way to the final, no other player can beat them!

    Neither Chen Long, Sho Sasaki, Lee Hyung Il, Taufik Hidayat, or Soni Kuntjoro....

    Not in that Olympics race definitely (perhaps they have some chances to beat the Duo in the more ordinary tournament)

    LD and LCW simply outclass the rest!

    And one does not need to be an expert in badminton to realize this fact... again, just need to open your eyes, and your mind widely don't spoil your 2-year stay at BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelana View Post
    c'mon julianng, open your eyes, and your mind widely...

    at the level of plays as displayed by both Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei at the Grand Finale and those preceding matches on the way to the final, no other player can beat them!

    Neither Chen Long, Sho Sasaki, Lee Hyung Il, Taufik Hidayat, or Soni Kuntjoro....

    Not in that Olympics race definitely (perhaps they have some chances to beat the Duo in the more ordinary tournament)

    LD and LCW simply outclass the rest!

    And one does not need to be an expert in badminton to realize this fact... again, just need to open your eyes, and your mind widely don't spoil your 2-year stay at BC
    lol, if my stay is spoiled, that means, you shouldn't abuse your admin at BC too ftw, (if you are admin).

    yea, maybe at this venue these 2 players would win definitely but it doesn't matter if it's WC or OG actually. Other players might do well at other venues even if it's WC or OG. Different atmosphere could change everything for different players. YOu should also open eyes and mind widely on this Mr. Kelana.

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    The drift beat LCW not LD. He played well on one side and crap* on the other and just could not adapt quick enough, hitting stuff out and leaving clears drop in. His last shot tells it all. LD didn't smash an unreturnable awesome shot. LCW just hit it out. LD just waited for him to make mistake.

    *not as good.

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    Murray hired Ivan Lendle. That is the diff between his Gold and LCW's silver. LCW has been let dwn by the BAM, plain and simple. Coaches, good ones make all the difference. Get LCW a real Coach and let's see how he will perform against lin dan. Get a China Coach. I am sure there will be one or two who will come. LCW has paid in sweat and blood for many years to BAM, now its pay back time. Without a coach that is the same level as those that lin dan has, all these talk about who is superior is just talk. Please BAM, for the sake of your dutiful son, do something!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    Murray hired Ivan Lendle. That is the diff between his Gold and LCW's silver. LCW has been let dwn by the BAM, plain and simple. Coaches, good ones make all the difference. Get LCW a real Coach and let's see how he will perform against lin dan. Get a China Coach. I am sure there will be one or two who will come. LCW has paid in sweat and blood for many years to BAM, now its pay back time. Without a coach that is the same level as those that lin dan has, all these talk about who is superior is just talk. Please BAM, for the sake of your dutiful son, do something!!
    Maybe they should hire xia xuanze for a change. He looks like someone LCW could use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    Murray hired Ivan Lendle. That is the diff between his Gold and LCW's silver. LCW has been let dwn by the BAM, plain and simple. Coaches, good ones make all the difference. Get LCW a real Coach and let's see how he will perform against lin dan. Get a China Coach. I am sure there will be one or two who will come. LCW has paid in sweat and blood for many years to BAM, now its pay back time. Without a coach that is the same level as those that lin dan has, all these talk about who is superior is just talk. Please BAM, for the sake of your dutiful son, do something!!
    Agree. Actually LCW shouldn't bother about WC, AG or OG anymore unless he can get Morten Frost as consultant coach for tactics, one month before tournament. It s the tactics that count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Agree. Actually LCW shouldn't bother about WC, AG or OG anymore unless he can get Morten Frost as consultant coach for tactics, one month before tournament. It s the tactics that count.
    Disagree. He should hire Xia as his coach, LYB as his strategist and LD as his sparring partner

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaggedCat View Post
    The drift beat LCW not LD. He played well on one side and crap* on the other and just could not adapt quick enough, hitting stuff out and leaving clears drop in. His last shot tells it all. LD didn't smash an unreturnable awesome shot. LCW just hit it out. LD just waited for him to make mistake.What about the first game when LD hit 12 to 14 shots out when he was playing on the side that LCW dished out crap?*not as good.
    What about the first set when LD hit 12 to 14 shots out when he was playing on the side where LCW played crap? Did the drift won the set for LCW too?

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    I agree the drift played a huge part in the outcome of the match. The shuttle which dropped in to give LD 19-19. The shuttle which went long to give LD the Gold.

    Both players had equal exposure to the drift. That's why they change ends at half way in the rubber game.

    LD simply coped with the drift better than LCW.

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    I started this thread for discussion on tactics, techniques and what both players have brought to the Badminton world that have not been seen before they came to the top. Instead we get lots of discussion on whether AE is a major tournament or that who should hire who to coach. keep it on the Badminton side of the view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    Murray hired Ivan Lendle. That is the diff between his Gold and LCW's silver. LCW has been let dwn by the BAM, plain and simple. Coaches, good ones make all the difference. Get LCW a real Coach and let's see how he will perform against lin dan. Get a China Coach. I am sure there will be one or two who will come. LCW has paid in sweat and blood for many years to BAM, now its pay back time. Without a coach that is the same level as those that lin dan has, all these talk about who is superior is just talk. Please BAM, for the sake of your dutiful son, do something!!
    If BAM really appreciates LCW, they should bring in coach Tang Xiang Hu, the legendary coach behind Lin Dan's success and Alan BK, Ardi BW in Indonesia. What if he stays in Indonesia and become the head coach... Indonesia Govt' screwed him. He paid the money but they did not deliver him the citizenship. What a corrupt Govt & racist a country I am not proud of.

    -Indra

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