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    as above, i would like to compare MX80 and the Z-force, i heard a lot of people gave up their [3U]Z-force just because they can't handle the weight and stiffness of the racket, some even face shoulder or muscle injury/pain, i wonder if it happens to [3U]MX80 as well. On the other part, [4U]Z-force seems to be more user friendly to many mostly people who are not muscular like me(although sacrificed some power). Anyway, i wonder if somebody will provide some review based on the difference between Z-force and MX80 based on their stiffness and weight(energy requirement also!).

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    i believe it has more to do with the proper mechanics than having a plethora of muscles, LCW is cut, but skinny, yet a very powerful player. anyway, i believe the overall weight is very close but the mx80 is a bit lighter in my opinion. both rackets are stiff, but the mx80 is a bit more forgiving. the distribution of weight is a bit more noticeable on the Z because it's supposedly lighter, but feel heavier in a swing. the overall weight is heavier on the mx80 but the distribution of head heaviness is not as extreme so it feels a bit lighter in a swing. this is just me paying real close attention when hitting, but generally they both feel the same to me, hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    i believe it has more to do with the proper mechanics than having a plethora of muscles, LCW is cut, but skinny, yet a very powerful player. anyway, i believe the overall weight is very close but the mx80 is a bit lighter in my opinion. both rackets are stiff, but the mx80 is a bit more forgiving. the distribution of weight is a bit more noticeable on the Z because it's supposedly lighter, but feel heavier in a swing. the overall weight is heavier on the mx80 but the distribution of head heaviness is not as extreme so it feels a bit lighter in a swing. this is just me paying real close attention when hitting, but generally they both feel the same to me, hehe.
    i'm wondering if anybody gave up their MX80 because they can't handle the stiffness/face injury and pain after using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    i'm wondering if anybody gave up their MX80 because they can't handle the stiffness/face injury and pain after using it
    i'm one

    still love the immediacy and accuracy of it, but the super stiff shaft is very demanding of perfect technique all the time... something which i don't possess

    eventually had to settle for mx70 and precision pro...

    also have a 4u vtzf which i use for singles... too head heavy for fast doubles exchange but the shaft is definitely not as stiff as mx80... i would even say that it feels slightly less stiff than mx70 because of its heavier head that bends the shaft more

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    i'm one

    still love the immediacy and accuracy of it, but the super stiff shaft is very demanding of perfect technique all the time... something which i don't possess

    eventually had to settle for mx70 and precision pro...

    also have a 4u vtzf which i use for singles... too head heavy for fast doubles exchange but the shaft is definitely not as stiff as mx80... i would even say that it feels slightly less stiff than mx70 because of its heavier head that bends the shaft more
    sad to hear that, i wonder if the 4u version of MX80 changes a lot. err...how about the comparison between [4U]MX80 and [3U]MX70, should be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    sad to hear that, i wonder if the 4u version of MX80 changes a lot. err...how about the comparison between [4U]MX80 and [3U]MX70, should be interesting
    fwiw, my mx80 is borderline 4u at 85.1g dry, and my mx70 is 87.5g dry

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    I switched to MX80 (4U) from SW35(3U) and loved it untill I started getting shoulder pain. Now taking a few weeks break from badminton to recover from the shoulder injury. I am planning to switch to a med flex racket, perhaps an MX60 or ARC10.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    i'm wondering if anybody gave up their MX80 because they can't handle the stiffness/face injury and pain after using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgsi_uk1 View Post
    I switched to MX80 (4U) from SW35(3U) and loved it untill I started getting shoulder pain. Now taking a few weeks break from badminton to recover from the shoulder injury. I am planning to switch to a med flex racket, perhaps an MX60 or ARC10.
    I'd try the MX70 as well - better power/effort ratio than the 80. I prefer the 80 myself, but I like rackets that are hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    fwiw, my mx80 is borderline 4u at 85.1g dry, and my mx70 is 87.5g dry
    o.o...how about the power level, any reviews?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    I'd try the MX70 as well - better power/effort ratio than the 80. I prefer the 80 myself, but I like rackets that are hard work.
    err...what you mean by hard work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    err...what you mean by hard work?
    A racket that demands consistent good technique (but offers a lot of power in return).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    i'm wondering if anybody gave up their MX80 because they can't handle the stiffness/face injury and pain after using it
    oh i'm sure. i'm one of them. but i believe it's because my lack of proper training and not lack of muscle mass. but after training for about 3 months, i'm able to handle it again, and now i don't have any problems playing games with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    oh i'm sure. i'm one of them. but i believe it's because my lack of proper training and not lack of muscle mass. but after training for about 3 months, i'm able to handle it again, and now i don't have any problems playing games with it.
    3U...or 4U?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    3U...or 4U?
    3u but i think it has to do with my mechanics instead of the weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    3u but i think it has to do with my mechanics instead of the weight.
    hmm...how would you rate yourself? muscular? normal? or skinny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycril View Post
    hmm...how would you rate yourself? muscular? normal? or skinny?
    i considered myself muscular and bulky since i used to weight lift a lot in college with a football buddy of mine, american football by the way. so for badminton, i am really slow and not agile at all!!! so for the past year i've been trying to lift weights to tone instead of bulking up like a body builder, hehe.

    and also i picked up cycling a bit over a year ago, so i've been doing a whole lot more cardio than when i was in college

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    i considered myself muscular and bulky since i used to weight lift a lot in college with a football buddy of mine, american football by the way. so for badminton, i am really slow and not agile at all!!! so for the past year i've been trying to lift weights to tone instead of bulking up like a body builder, hehe.

    and also i picked up cycling a bit over a year ago, so i've been doing a whole lot more cardio than when i was in college
    LOL~your stamina must be very great, welcome to badminton then

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