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    Default New shoes for an very frustated flatfooted player

    Greetings everyone.

    I have been playing badminton for 12 years and I have always been having the problem with my flatfootyness when I play badminton. However I have now bought three pairs of shoes from Yonex and I have to say the first pair I bought was lovely.

    They did not cost too much only 70 dollars (500 Swedish crowns). And I really loved the feel of them. They fitted my foot as a glove and they were really nice to play with.

    The next time I bought a pair of shoes was from yonex again I dont dont remember the model-name of it but it was green and silver in the colour and I played with it for almost three years. I liked them, but I was always forced to have double socks which made me more stiff on the court.

    The reason why I had to have double socks on was because the shoe was a bit too big for me. This problem ended with my ankle got sprained three times on one training and after that I have been having chronic ankle problems.

    I cant walk without feeling discomfort in my foot and I have been to the doctor which want me to take painkillers instead of using a real kind of treatment such as getting a remiss to an orthopedic expert.

    After this problem I did not learn from my mistake to buy a pair of shoes from Yonex. I bought my third pair of shoes which had the exact same problem as previous shoes. It was a little too big for me in the front of the shoe which I could feel when a did lunges. My foot was moving on the shoe which leading to that I could not get back fast to the centre.


    Now my final question is what is the best way to go from here? Should I buy a new pair of Yonex or should I go with Asics?

    Is there a huge diffrence between Ascis Blast 4 and Asics Gel Rocket? There a big diffrence in price range I know, but if I play three times a week and I have five weekends of league playing in my swedish league do you think a pair of Asics Gel Rocket would have the quality for that?

    Or would you recommend I buy a really expensive pair of shoes to insure that the quality is good.

    I am very open with other shoes also but right now I am thinking of either Asics Gel Blast 4 or Asics Gel Rocket.

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    Dennis.

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    why don't you try on a pair and run around the store or just do some footwork steps with the asics. and by the way, just because they are expensive does NOT mean high quality, sometime it just means it's expensive.

    i've tried nike court shoes, one of the worst. with yonex you do get what you paid for, and i've tried the low end and high end shoes and there is a big difference. my friend had asics and comparing it to his top of the line yonex he said asics gave me more comfort, but less support.

    like anything else, try on a pair and walk a few steps with it and see if your feet like them.

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    First of all, one problem is you've been buying several(!) pairs that are obviously too big for your feet! You should not have to wear double socks.

    Second is there are no shoes from any brand that deal with flat feet. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.

    Third, are you sure you have flat feet? Did the doctor diagnose you? If he did, then he should've known to refer you or suggest you to get orthotics to support the fallen medial arches.

    I'll get to the fourth item once I know for sure you have flat feet.

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    The fourth item is probably a special insole for flat feets? :P
    But these insoles have to be matched with the flat feets by a doctor. That's what I know for insoles for common / non-sports shoes.

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    Same problem that I have.

    1) Make sure when you lunge, the leading foot turns outwards when it lands

    2) Orthotics

    3) ankle support - it can help make your foot feel tighter in the shoe without having to wear two socks

    4) get the right size shoe

    5) Mizuno does some wider sole shoes

    6) Last couple of years, I tried Yonex again. They have some plastic support on the outer part of the shoe. That really helps stabilise my foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    First of all, one problem is you've been buying several(!) pairs that are obviously too big for your feet! You should not have to wear double socks.

    Second is there are no shoes from any brand that deal with flat feet. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.

    Third, are you sure you have flat feet? Did the doctor diagnose you? If he did, then he should've known to refer you or suggest you to get orthotics to support the fallen medial arches.

    I'll get to the fourth item once I know for sure you have flat feet.

    I have already been to a doctor that have been looking on my foot. He said that I have an extreme flatfoot which means that I dont even need to get a sole that is designed for my whole foot becuase it would just make my foot ache way much more. I have flatfoot-splint which makes that foot not get too flat when I play.

    I have now already bought a new pair of Asics Blast 4. I really liked the feel of them. They were not so light but they were as you said very comfortable. I am not fastest player on court so it would either make me or break me in my footwork. Probably it will make me better because of the right foot size now.

    I had foot size 27 CM in my previous Yonex shoes.

    This time I have 26.5 CM. So there is the diffrence, now I dont need to feel my foot slide inside my shoe.

    Thanks everyone for all your tips.

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    ^^ Your doctor is only partially right; as long as you don't fully correct for the flat feet with the orthotics then you won't cause pain. This is very important when you play, because you do need some degree of correction but not full correction, otherwise you'll be in pain.

    You should look at getting Spenco Total Support orthotics, Regular if you're not too heavy and Max if you're quite heavy. They are one of the best available for us flat feet people for sports. (I have both.). If you search around on BC, there are many excellent reviews on them.

    One other item: flat feet will cause wide feet due to splaying of the forefoot, hence instead of getting bigger shoes that don't fit you properly, you should be looking at especially wider shoes like Yonex SC5EX and SHB200, and Victor SHW950.
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    Thank you for the advice Visor. I have now ordered a pair of Spenco Total Support Orthotics from Ebay. Tried to find a retailer in Europe but it was kinda hard. But finally I found someone the price was not so bad. 39 dollars with shipping added. I have bought as I said Asics Gel Blast 4 now. Tried them this friday on the badminton and I felt a huge diffrence right away.

    After training with my Yonex-shoes which were too big for me I had problems walking after training becuase the arch is aching. But after playing with the Asisc I did not feel anything at all after the training. I felt a bit that my knees were a bit sore but that was just because I did not move properly becuaes I only trained for 45 minutes. (I was working and could not come sooner to training).

    But I am excited to get the soles and see if the arch support will be better in my shoe.

    All the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    First of all, one problem is you've been buying several(!) pairs that are
    Third, are you sure you have flat feet? Did the doctor diagnose you? If he did, then he should've known to refer you or suggest you to get orthotics to support the fallen medial arches.
    I had the doctors diagnose me with flat feet, he then smiled and said 'yes you will have arthritis on the knee by the time you are 40' then then ask me what should I do.
    Obviously I asked if NHS could provide custom orthotics.

    But your doctors asking you what to do made me laugh inside and question myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohala View Post
    I had the doctors diagnose me with flat feet, he then smiled and said you will have arthritis on the knee by the time you are 40' then then ask me what should I do.
    Obviously I asked if NHS could provide custom orthotics.

    But your doctors asking you what to do made me laugh inside and question myself.
    the good thing about doctors is that you can always go and seek a second opinion if you're not satisfied... ...

    In this case, see a podiatrist or foot specialist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    the good thing about doctors is that you can always go and seek a second opinion if you're not satisfied... ...

    In this case, see a podiatrist or foot specialist...
    I'm on the NHS waiting list (12 weeks) and going to a private one they would charge me 30 -60 an apointment.

    Plus a student with no job it seams not ideal to go private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohala View Post
    I'm on the NHS waiting list (12 weeks) and going to a private one they would charge me 30 -60 an apointment.

    Plus a student with no job it seams not ideal to go private.
    Just save your money and trouble, and get the Spenco Total Support Max from Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Just save your money and trouble, and get the Spenco Total Support Max from Amazon.
    Interesting would they be better than the sorbothane pro version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohala View Post
    Interesting would they be better than the sorbothane pro version?
    I'd say so, after looking at some pics of them... It doesn't look like there's much arch support on them.

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    Try barefoot

    j/k Give Victor shoes a try. They have a wide toe box.

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    I also gave Science26 insoles ago too but they are extremly hard, tried them out for a week as use for normal walking shoes, and it ended up hurting my knees and they are way too grippy.

    http://www.science26.co.uk/

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    Is the Victor SHW950 a mid range shoes? From the materials I saw it's similar to Victor SH9000ACE, so I'm assuming that it's a high end shoes
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