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    Li YB is for the Asian Games, a major regional event to CBA to win national honours, similarly for SEA Games, Commonwealth Games, Pan-American Games,etc for the relevant nations.

    His concern is that there are too many tournaments for the players, the 12 SS/PSS, the GPGs, World Championships, TUC, Sudirman, and for those young enough,the WJC, AJC, University Games, and then the leagues with attractive payouts for the professionals to make extra bucks. Such a demanding schedule,and it's not easy to prioritise, takes a toll more on the top 10-20 players, I think, than most others who usually get eliminated in the early rounds.

    That's why it's so hard to be a top 10 player or rise to become one when you've to fare consistently in the QFs or SFs, if not win the title. And every time you reach the QF, you're likely to meet top-notch players who will practically stretch you to the limit; many times, even those ranked outside the top 20 can push you hard. A top 10 player,for example, not only must keep himself in tip-top condition, physically as well as mentally, he/she must play in enough tournaments that matter in order to maintain his/her rankings, apart from other obligations such as the national/regional/league/team championships.

    Needless to say, the risk of injury also increases proportionately, the consequences are high, so too the price to pay, not just in terms of the USD5K fines and ranking points lost.

    All the more,these world class players must learn to pace themselves, minimise the risk of injury (how many can stay injury-free?) and maintain their form as much as possible. But they cannot do that effectively when there are simply too many demands on them; it is anything but easy to juggle or strike a balance without giving some tournaments a miss and suffer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Li YB is for the Asian Games, a major regional event to CBA to win national honours, similarly for SEA Games, Commonwealth Games, Pan-American Games,etc for the relevant nations.

    His concern is that there are too many tournaments for the players, the 12 SS/PSS, the GPGs, World Championships, TUC, Sudirman, and for those young enough,the WJC, AJC, University Games, and then the leagues with attractive payouts for the professionals to make extra bucks. Such a demanding schedule,and it's not easy to prioritise, takes a toll more on the top 10-20 players, I think, than most others who usually get eliminated in the early rounds.

    That's why it's so hard to be a top 10 player or rise to become one when you've to fare consistently in the QFs or SFs, if not win the title. And every time you reach the QF, you're likely to meet top-notch players who will practically stretch you to the limit; many times, even those ranked outside the top 20 can push you hard. A top 10 player,for example, not only must keep himself in tip-top condition, physically as well as mentally, he/she must play in enough tournaments that matter in order to maintain his/her rankings, apart from other obligations such as the national/regional/league/team championships.

    Needless to say, the risk of injury also increases proportionately, the consequences are high, so too the price to pay, not just in terms of the USD5K fines and ranking points lost.

    All the more,these world class players must learn to pace themselves, minimise the risk of injury (how many can stay injury-free?) and maintain their form as much as possible. But they cannot do that effectively when there are simply too many demands on them; it is anything but easy to juggle or strike a balance without giving some tournaments a miss and suffer for it.
    what is the figure of obliged tournament?
    20?30?

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    Of course, Li YB or CBA always give top priority to Team Championships and events that put the nation first, namely Olympic Games, World Championships, Thomas and Uber Cups, Sudirman Cup, Asian Games, that goes without saying.

    As for the CBSL, he was against his national players taking part at first but gave in eventually, making a concession to them, esp after knowing how much more their table-tennis counterparts are making financially ( and I'd add for a physically much less demanding sport and at greatly reduced risk of injury). So how can the CBSL be that important to him as some of you are implying without getting it right? Look how many of his national players were injured playing in the league.

    Yeah, a very good idea for China to hold a couple of GPGs for their 2nd tier and lesser players to compete with international world class players. That's what the CBSL is trying to do too with the likes of Lee CW, Taufik, Intanon, KKK/TBH in addition to spicing it up for the spectators.

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    I dont know what you wanna insist from this.. I think Li yongbo's statement did affect your mind too much... !!! . May be.. you have so much admiration to him . According to me, he does not care or anything about any other players of the world other than chinese. . He wants his national players to participate in CBSL as well as all the other tournaments. If he feels that Tournament software as jam packed, why not he try to cancel his CBSL tournament . He usually never mind in criticizing others especially BWF or referees for the sake of the players of his nation. That does not do anything good to foreign players . So, if BWF has taken a decision, that definitely would be for the welfare of all the players including players from China.

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    Glad Australia won the bid for SS

    This year's Australian Open was a huge success. Tickets were completely sold out and seats were filled to the maximum. I still remember the massive que hours before entering the stadium for the finals... Some even traveled from other states and even overseas to watch the games. This was amazing considering the low badminton standard in Australia and its GP status. The level of organisation and attendance can even compete with SS level tournaments. It definitely shows that badminton has a growing popularity in Australia

    Overall the tournament was a great success and many praised Australia for such organisation despite being a GP Event. Alot of effort was put into the event, and I'm glad BWF and the rest of the world saw that

    This is a great positive step for Australian and Oceania badminton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Of course, Li YB or CBA always give top priority to Team Championships and events that put the nation first, namely Olympic Games, World Championships, Thomas and Uber Cups, Sudirman Cup, Asian Games, that goes without saying.

    As for the CBSL, he was against his national players taking part at first but gave in eventually, making a concession to them, esp after knowing how much more their table-tennis counterparts are making financially ( and I'd add for a physically much less demanding sport and at greatly reduced risk of injury). So how can the CBSL be that important to him as some of you are implying without getting it right? Look how many of his national players were injured playing in the league.

    Yeah, a very good idea for China to hold a couple of GPGs for their 2nd tier and lesser players to compete with international world class players. That's what the CBSL is trying to do too with the likes of Lee CW, Taufik, Intanon, KKK/TBH in addition to spicing it up for the spectators.
    Then LYB & CBA just need to adjust accordingly & choose the tournaments, just like everyone else. Dont need to year in year out complain about the packed schedule. Basically suck it up & move on like everybody else. LYB keeps complaining about this every year it has gotten annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Li YB is for the Asian Games, a major regional event to CBA to win national honours, similarly for SEA Games, Commonwealth Games, Pan-American Games,etc for the relevant nations.

    His concern is that there are too many tournaments for the players, the 12 SS/PSS, the GPGs, World Championships, TUC, Sudirman, and for those young enough,the WJC, AJC, University Games, and then the leagues with attractive payouts for the professionals to make extra bucks. Such a demanding schedule,and it's not easy to prioritise, takes a toll more on the top 10-20 players, I think, than most others who usually get eliminated in the early rounds.

    That's why it's so hard to be a top 10 player or rise to become one when you've to fare consistently in the QFs or SFs, if not win the title. And every time you reach the QF, you're likely to meet top-notch players who will practically stretch you to the limit; many times, even those ranked outside the top 20 can push you hard. A top 10 player,for example, not only must keep himself in tip-top condition, physically as well as mentally, he/she must play in enough tournaments that matter in order to maintain his/her rankings, apart from other obligations such as the national/regional/league/team championships.

    Needless to say, the risk of injury also increases proportionately, the consequences are high, so too the price to pay, not just in terms of the USD5K fines and ranking points lost.

    All the more,these world class players must learn to pace themselves, minimise the risk of injury (how many can stay injury-free?) and maintain their form as much as possible. But they cannot do that effectively when there are simply too many demands on them; it is anything but easy to juggle or strike a balance without giving some tournaments a miss and suffer for it.
    even if you play 30 tournaments or 10 tournaments in a year the best 10 tournament results are only taken into consideration for the ...Can't understand why these complains because even during the older times there used to be much part of the schedule like this...And the matches used to go for longer time than nowadays...Is it due to the factor that fitnesse of players is decreasing overtime...And these complaints does not exist only in badminton,even though we cannot compare it with other sports I actually think the schedule is a bit better than of other sports like Cricket,tennis(where best of 19 tournaments are taken for the ranking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Then LYB & CBA just need to adjust accordingly & choose the tournaments, just like everyone else. Dont need to year in year out complain about the packed schedule. Basically suck it up & move on like everybody else. LYB keeps complaining about this every year it has gotten annoying.
    Don't understand why it should annoy you if you think the problem or concern is largely Li YB/CBA's only. Let it affect the CHN players, good for the ROW who are happy with it, isn't it? On the contrary, you should be delighted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    even if you play 30 tournaments or 10 tournaments in a year the best 10 tournament results are only taken into consideration for the ...Can't understand why these complains because even during the older times there used to be much part of the schedule like this...And the matches used to go for longer time than nowadays...Is it due to the factor that fitnesse of players is decreasing overtime...And these complaints does not exist only in badminton,even though we cannot compare it with other sports I actually think the schedule is a bit better than of other sports like Cricket,tennis(where best of 19 tournaments are taken for the ranking).
    You already said it - 10 best tournament results, so just play in 10 will do, no matter how you perform? Is that what most players do?

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    on a side note
    how much tournament did federer play every year?
    25?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    on a side note
    how much tournament did federer play every year?
    25?
    21 for this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    21 for this year.
    so how can people say lin dan is like federer in badminton?
    in 2008,lin dan play 8 tournaments only.
    this year 9 tournaments
    federere play 2 years=lindan 4 years

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    Li YB main duty/KPI is to win major honours for CHINA - players personal glories and achievements in SuperSeries are secondary unless they directly affect the chances for CHINA eg when China need to fill up the top 10 in MS in order to get 3 players into Olympics then in that Olympic year, all out !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Don't understand why it should annoy you if you think the problem or concern is largely Li YB/CBA's only. Let it affect the CHN players, good for the ROW who are happy with it, isn't it? On the contrary, you should be delighted.
    Oh, sure. Why not? Throughout history, lots of battles were won by tiring out the supposedly superior forces.
    Ever heard of Stalingrad?

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    Can't compare tennis and badminton. Maybe if Federer is a badminton player, he can't have the stamina to play 13 tournaments in a year.

    Badminton is more demanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sen View Post
    Can't compare tennis and badminton. Maybe if Federer is a badminton player, he can't have the stamina to play 13 tournaments in a year.

    Badminton is more demanding.
    I won't exactly say badminton is more demanding,but tennis has too many breaks compared to badminton between a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    I won't exactly say badminton is more demanding,but tennis has too many breaks compared to badminton between a match.
    if a normal 3hour long match
    how much % is the break?

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