View Poll Results: do you prefer Isometric or Oval?
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12-28-2007, 04:18 AM #256
iso because no need to try that hard to hit the sweet spot
12-28-2007, 06:31 AM #257
True, an iso has a bigger stringbed and therefore has a bigger "sweetspot". But what about the quality of its sweetspot? Air resistance or its lack of it is very important. You can test this yourself with two identical racquets, except one is with string and the other without, by swinging them. Notice the dramatic difference in speed and maneuverability between the two?
12-28-2007, 10:09 AM #258
i grew up using oval rackets, from Blacken SP, to Carbonex 8,9s, then to Boron 200, Aerotus 110SP. should be experienced enough to tell the difference. but Iso rackets just make hitting the shuttle easier and more forgiving. also, now i believe with the newer technology, i can swing all my Iso rackets faster, crisper than my old ovals. hence, my conclusion that Iso is better for me.
12-28-2007, 10:15 AM #259
WOW, these are some theories. So, may I assume the box frame of Cab30ms has less air resistance than the aero frame of AT900t? Also, my source told me that Yonex tennis frame with 95 sq in (ISO frame) has bigger sweet spot than other brand oval frame with 100 sq in. Hummm?
Let's see, a racquet without string weight 87g. vs same racquet with string weight 91g, I think the racquet with string will feel head heavier and harder to swing.
12-28-2007, 06:55 PM #260
Weight is just one of many factors impacting on maneuverability. Others are length, presence of "T" joint (yes, "T" joint makes a racquet more ponderous, which even Yonex admits), cross-section of frame, stringbed area, frame shape, balance, thickness of string used (thinner strings have less air resistance). Also many modern ovals are not box shape. In fact some have very thin cross-section.
12-30-2007, 06:38 AM #261
I used to have a bonny racket,oval frame..n it occurs to me that it's one of the most powerful racket i've got.Too bad it's broken.Although i always uses iso frame racket rite now,but i still think oval frame is actually good as well.It looks old,n sometimes preventing me from buying one.But after u have one,u'll probably change ur mind.
Last edited by Smichz; 12-30-2007 at 06:42 AM.
12-31-2007, 12:51 AM #262
It is like some men prefer classical, elegant and mature lady while some likes young, light headed, hot looking and flavor of the day. It's whatever wins the game for you.
12-31-2007, 02:05 AM #263
Dink it, Great Grandmaster SH!!! You hit it bang on again.
12-31-2007, 03:59 AM #264
12-31-2007, 09:48 AM #265
12-31-2007, 02:37 PM #266
Unfortunately on the Yonex end it is hard to make a fair comparison between Ovals and Iso frames. All of the currently available Ovals are essentially old models that don't use many if any of the new technologies that the ISO frames sport. It would be interesting to get comparison of the Carlton rackets that are offered in both an ISO and Oval frame and see how they compare with each other.
01-01-2008, 08:23 AM #267
i prefer the isometric 1...
01-05-2008, 10:18 AM #268
The following comparison is based on my personal experience, other ppl may feel otherwise
I've been using oval shape rackets all my life especially the yonex cab series - cab7, cab8, cab20 & nowadays cab21sp. I have both the older cab21sp racquets (dark blue & beige line color scheme) & the newer (black & red line color scheme).
Used to play singles in my school team but switched to doubles and has been playing doubles ever since. I have flexible arm & wrist, which is beneficial in playing fast drives & flicks in doubles
Me & my brother playing together with my friends twice a week, & I always use my cab21, never feel the need to try my friends' high-end racquets. Even my bro tried to convince me to get those high-end racquets (he's using Yonex AT Special Limited Edition & N9000s at the moment), but my replies are always the same: "your fundamental skills & techniques are more important than an expensive high-end racquet".
Until recently, I started to feel sore & pain in my arm & wrist after long hours of playing (probably because of cab21's head heavyness & my arm not as strong as b4 )
That prompt me to give head light/balance ISO racquets a try, so I purchase my first ISO racquet - the AT900T after reading many good reviews about the racquet.
I've been using the AT900T for nearly a month now & I must say I feel being 'pampered' by the AT900T . All the shots I used to execute with my cab21 can be done effortlessly with the AT900T, in fact, the AT900T improves my playing maneurability & accuracy because of it's head light/balanced & longer grip handle.
When compared to my cab21, the AT900T is flex-medium stiff, ultra light weight & has a bigger sweet spot (thanks to all those high tech apllied to it). However, I do need to adjust my swing timing, but that's not a problem at all after a while.
I can swing faster & move around the court easier using the AT900T, & my friends are having difficulty retrieving my shots The reason why I say I feel being 'pampered' by the AT900T is probably because all those sores & pains of using the cab21 are gone, replaced by the joy of able to outplay your opponent in most shots.
I notice there's a lot of discussion going on over which racquet is the best...& blah,blah,blah. If somebody ask me should I get an Oval or ISO racquet? my replies are the same as b4:"your fundamental skills are more important than the racquet's head shape"
However, in my personal experience, I do find the high-end technology ISO racquets nowadays giving me that extra "edge" I need to win over opponents at my or higher level. You will only notice the difference when u play against tough opponents in closely matched games, where every point counts, & u need that extra push to help u with split-second shots.
For amateurs, forget about getting the most expensive racquets & hoping that it will improve your game 100%, it's impossible. If you are an amateur using the latest most expensive ISO racquet up against an experienced good player, the good player will outplay you even with an old steel racquet. Trust me.
01-14-2008, 03:01 AM #269
Never mind, I erased my comments.
Last edited by otterfun; 01-14-2008 at 03:04 AM.
01-29-2008, 11:28 AM #270
01-29-2008, 09:42 PM #271
errrr............AT900T is head heavy .....!!!!!!
01-30-2008, 01:16 AM #272
i have heard (and am inclined to believe) that though it is true that the iso has a bigger sweetspot, the sweetspot of oval heads are more concentrated, and therefore are more beneficial when you hit right on the spot, as opposed to isos, where even if you hit in the dead centre of the sweet spot, it won't be nearly as efficient. plus, if one were to at least practice with oval head (smaller sweet spot) and play games with an iso, it would train them to be more precise to hit the spot, and not be as sloppy.
personally, i use the pro kennex boron 808 and pro kennex concave 700 (both oval), so i might be a bit biased, but that is my two cents.
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