View Poll Results: do you prefer Isometric or Oval?
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03-10-2005, 03:42 PM #86Originally Posted by cooler
I specifically said
"To keep the static balance point the same,"
03-10-2005, 03:58 PM #87Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
You (and taneepak) are saying
I don't see that as a contradiction
If you keep balance, weight and length constant, what you do by changing the frame size is alter the weight distribution. You need more material to make an iso than an oval so there will be more weight in the head and less somewhere else. Therefore more head-heavy than the oval, therefore higher swingweight
iso head shape has nothing to do with more head weight and more swingweight. Just because armortec/mp/Ti series are mostly head heavy rackets don't support the above deduction. Take a look at NS series, mp60/66, isometric heads, all head light rackets so far (ns7000 and ns8000). More frame circumference material DOES NOT mean more head weight.
03-10-2005, 04:07 PM #88
ISO shape rackets don't always have more head weight than Oval rackets.
Think about ISO-Slim10 as an example, which has thin frame design. So, people really need to think about the material, the make, and the thickness of the frame instead of thinking ISO has more head weight than Oval.
NS7000 is another good example here. It features head light design, and I don't think I need to say more about it; It's a ISO racket.
Think 3D, not 2D
03-10-2005, 04:31 PM #89
Cooler, and now you too bluejeff, are still not getting what I'm saying
I wasn't agreeing with taneepak
I do not agree with taneepak, particularly about how much power a racquet has.
I was dis-agreeing with Kwun's way of dis-agreeing with taneepak about swingweight
(gee, that makes it a lot clearer )
head-light, even, head-heavy are almost meaningless in swingweight terms.
4U AT800 OF is not head heavy
4U AT800 OF is head heavy compared to MP88
is 4U AT800 OF head-heavy compared to 2U MP-100 ?
Nobody has the numbers like
4U AT800 OF has swingweight 137
2U MP100 has swingweight 160
the best anybody does (so far) is swing the racquets a bit and say
hmmm, this one feels harder to swing than that one so it must be more head-heavy
Show me the numbers
03-10-2005, 04:38 PM #90
03-10-2005, 04:48 PM #91Originally Posted by cooler
now why aren't all those pros using the B-8100
With it's huge swingweight it must have lots of power
03-10-2005, 05:28 PM #92Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
03-10-2005, 05:44 PM #93Originally Posted by bluejeff
no no no, it should be:
Do you think company will make money if their new products don't break
03-10-2005, 09:10 PM #94
Even if an iso frame has the same weight as an oval, it is still more powerful, plus it will have a larger sweetspot, than an oval, AOTBE. This is due to its higher swingweight, in part derived from its longer 'length'. As you may know length is another swingweight factor. If you take a ruler and place it across the frame about 1" from the top of the racquet head, you will see less of the oval and more of the iso frame as well as string. Thus an iso does have a longer effective 'length' than an oval.
03-10-2005, 11:14 PM #95Originally Posted by taneepak
I mean the racquet forearm LOL
03-11-2005, 12:49 AM #96
ISO VS OVAL - which one produce more punch? Nah . . . We should concentrate on the dude who can muster the most explosive swing.
03-11-2005, 12:57 AM #97
03-11-2005, 11:28 AM #98
What if I prefer both ISO and OVAL?
03-11-2005, 11:45 AM #99Originally Posted by Pete LSD
03-17-2005, 06:59 AM #100
I'm an intermediate player who had a strong attachment to the ISO's head racket in a long time. I have tried the Yonex MP's (including MP50, MP80, MP90, MP100), the AT's ( including AT500, AT700, AT 800 OF) and the Ti's rackets of Ashaway. Since I owned a CAB 30 MS last month , I gradually changed my opinion about the oval head rackets. They are effective weapon on the course, especially for the players who choose the all-around way of playing in a moderate speed. Supplying acceptable power and confidental control , the oval head racket can set mind at rest in gaining the initiative in front of opponents.Of course, I have to lose time to familiarize with them.I don't regret by joining my CAB 30 MS everyday,in my training time.
On second thoughts,my wife-a beginer player- chose a Gosen Gavun Root 5000 (oval head) replacing the Yonex MP50 which she had used nearly a year.
However, there are our personal free choices.
03-17-2005, 10:14 AM #101
haha..of cos iso head! haha...bigger ss and better feel ehehehehehe....wonder if yonex can make a racket head as big as a tennis racket head...so i'm able to catch some smash
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