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    It appears that the whole China team is in a bit of a disarray after the Olympics when they reaped a bumper harvest far exceeding their goals and expectations. Not only the players,particularly their gold medallists, but also the coaches including Li Yongbo himself are giving themselves a well-deserved long break. Lin Dan himself is on long leave and will likely not play in the Superseries Final as reported. Cai Yun injured his shoulder in his very first match and tournament. Li Xuerui lost three times in three events. Zhao Yunlei is off-form partnering Tian Qing in WD and then in the XD. Chen Jin since before the Olympics is still not himself. While Wang Xin is nursing her Olympic injury, Wang Yihan today sustained hers. Even their second stringers are not performing quite as they usually do.

    It is high time for Li Yongbo to gather the whole team for a crisis management meeting and put things back on track before the situation spirals out of control or things are going to get worse before they get better. For a start, damage control is the order of the day, do a thorough analysis of where the problem lies and nip it in the bud. Maybe things aren't that serious yet but something has to be done about it to restore the right balance and steady the ship. Meanwhile, the slackening is a bit too worrisome to say the least. Wake up, CBA!

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    a smile, a nod, a clap can convey much more than words. i believe language is over rated for communication. non verbal communication is a large part.
    an example - there are always some points in a game that u win by luck. for example your smash hits the tape and just tumbles over. i have seen WYH celebrate it like a point won by skill. I have seen lcw be quiet or raise his hand apologetically.
    to me this is the difference. Lin Dan is like LCW in many respects. but i dont like the attitude of WYH in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    On the words over the net, CHN players probably don't speak English. LCW can speak a little of English to PG and of course Mandarin to CHn players.

    Thanks for pointing that out. Mistake on my part for assuming they can speak a common language. But still there is universal language called smile and handshake which doesnt require them to speak. When I see a WS match its like

    SN
    Mission: beat the Chinese Players
    Outcome: Lost, 95%
    Reason: they were better players

    Chinese Players
    Mission: beat SN and rest of the World
    Outcome: Won, 95%
    Reason: we were better players


    LOL! Thats how I see it. There is nothing else to their game.

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    I am off for today and may not be around for tomorrow's matches. We are also celebrating a Birthday tomorrow (today) in the family, same day as LCW.
    Last edited by nokh88; 10-20-2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahuldarga View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out. Mistake on my part for assuming they can speak a common language. But still there is universal language called smile and handshake which doesnt require them to speak. When I see a WS match its like

    SN
    Mission: beat the Chinese Players
    Outcome: Lost, 95%
    Reason: they were better players

    Chinese Players
    Mission: beat SN and rest of the World
    Outcome: Won, 95%
    Reason: we were better players


    LOL! Thats how I see it. There is nothing else to their game.
    I think the percentage is beginning to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahuldarga View Post
    You are right that SN was a better player today. But I consider a victory only if the match is completed especially if the opponent is of WYH's calibre. We all know WYH is a three set player and she is very capable of making a come back. If you have seen 2011 Indonesian open final you would know that. SN lost to WYH in three sets 3 times and I think, someone correct me if I am wrong, WYH won those after being a set down.

    I would also like to ask you one question, you are saying SN won this match because she was a better player in the first game. Then I will say that SN never won the bronze medal as WX was a better player in first game in that match... Would you accept that?

    So in badminton, I never consider a victory unless someone wins a match point. We all know that almost all the top 10 players have the capability to make a comeback after being a game down and even have 2 or 3 match points against them. Especially SN, WYH, WX and WSX.
    Thinking such as this gives more reason to fake an injury, Definitely unless a match point is won nobody wins it but the walkovers, conceding a match is counted as others win for the same reason, if anyone couldnt continue for any unfortunate reasons we may sympathize with them but never ever can take anything away from the other player. I would just like to ask you if a player is 21-0, 20-0 down and fakes an injury say stomach-ache or just slips to the court and couldnt continue by your logic you dont count this match at all? isnt it unfair to players who play with the spirit of the game? If this would be the case we would hardly see a complete match ever it would only be when its 20-20 in the rubber game that we would see a complete match.
    You surely have set some high standards or easy approach to evade give excuses for a loss.

    You dint wanted to bring Wang Xin here well said then, but in both case it wasnt SN who had to concede any match. injury to anyone is unfortunate so you leave that out but the results speak out for themselves. the scoreline then and now would always read SN won the matches, if anyone has to say anybody got lucky or unlucky and put in iffs and buts its their wish and that hardly matters anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rahuldarga View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out. Mistake on my part for assuming they can speak a common language. But still there is universal language called smile and handshake which doesnt require them to speak. When I see a WS match its like

    SN
    Mission: beat the Chinese Players
    Outcome: Lost, 95%
    Reason: they were better players

    Chinese Players
    Mission: beat SN and rest of the World
    Outcome: Won, 95%
    Reason: we were better players


    LOL! Thats how I see it. There is nothing else to their game.
    Atleast you admit you need to bring on an army against one player

    Thats how I see it, theres nothing else....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincentzhao View Post
    Wang Yihan has win the Dannish tournament many times (Am i correct?). She won at least one title in every present tournament in the badminton planet. Do not think she will take it as a big defeat.

    The only title she is still chasing is the Olympic no thanks to that lucker Li Xuerui.
    Somewhere I feel bad for LXR. Yes her achievements being attributed to luck. Poor girl gave in everything, was almost invincible her H2H against all players prove this, climbed up the ranks to be able to compete in the Olympics if you are a CHN the competition could be very tough you know.
    Anyways she has the medals for the record and others could just say anything they wish to but they can never take out the results from her.

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    Oh wow, the Japanese ladies have won yet again.
    Didn't expect to say this one more time, tonight, with the opponents being TQ/ZYL.
    Ran out of jumping smileys to paste, so .
    Gonna have to skip the Deathly Hallows 2 tomorrow and watch the rerun instead, but it should be well worth the sacrifice.
    Ayaka's arm looked as though it was about to stop listening to her commands.
    There must a way to siphon off all the lactic acid.
    I guess they will probably need to rotate the backline duties in the final match to minimise fatigue.
    demolidor must be kicking himself for not PAWing the right pair .
    Anyway, wow .

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    if u are one of the badminton player,u should be comitted to keep urself ready to tournament.

    if u only treat badminton as a tool,then better get lost from badminton circuit.

    did u ever see peter said: oh,i lack of practise because i am busy to publish my book!.
    those excuses only show how u treat ur badminton and show what kind of people are u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    if u are one of the badminton player,u should be comitted to keep urself ready to tournament.

    if u only treat badminton as a tool,then better get lost from badminton circuit.

    did u ever see peter said: oh,i lack of practise because i am busy to publish my book!.
    those excuses only show how u treat ur badminton and show what kind of people are u.
    But Peter did say similar thing in his FB:
    "Hey Guys, well, unfortunately things didn't go as planned in my first round match yesterday against Soroubh Varma from India. I lost my match 18-21 14-21. I knew there was a risk of this happen, since my preps hasn't been like the would normally be. But i wasn't feeling that good on court yesterday and Varma made it very difficult for me, playing a clever game.."
    My disclaimer: this is not intended to put discredit to the great Peter. He will always be the legend

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    By letting Du win, CHN is giving LCW a birthday and wedding present, both packed into one.
    I agree with you, in some senses, yes it is giving LCW a Wedding Prize, however it is all done in favor for CBA future in order to groom their backup shuttler, provided CBA coach could give instruction to DPY to force LCW to be all out, it is a difficult task though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naistav View Post
    But Peter did say similar thing in his FB:
    "Hey Guys, well, unfortunately things didn't go as planned in my first round match yesterday against Soroubh Varma from India. I lost my match 18-21 14-21. I knew there was a risk of this happen,since my preps hasn't been like the would normally be. But i wasn't feeling that good on court yesterday and Varma made it very difficult for me, playing a clever game.."
    My disclaimer: this is not intended to put discredit to the great Peter. He will always be the legend
    how about the bold part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    It's always after such incidents that many posters reveal their true colours. Good, help me to get to know them better. I already noticed one new 'troll' on the block getting bolder and bolder without realizing he's doing his idol a disservice by what he wrote in addition to making a fool of himself.

    Lucky thing WYH doesn't have to play next week's French Open - the better to rest and recover fully for the SS Final.
    Ha ha.. Good joke of the year. Have you realised the true colours of your chinese counterparts. Before pointing others, let you correct yourself or correct your chinese badminton system. I dont have doubt the way they sacrifice themselves for badminton but i have also heard the way they throw games against each other and giving a walkover or blaming others if they have beaten them. OR highlighting of all, they fear for loss. I bet you that you wont reject all these things. Before joining this forum, i have read all the forum topics and i found you are a long time badminton fan. You might have realised by now how come these things happening in recent times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    how about the bold part?
    Yes. He admitted both lack of preparation and Varma played very good that day.

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    KKK/TBH failed again at the last hurdle against SBC/YYS (U).
    What a shame after their brilliant performance against MB/CM (S1) in the SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Alan and me are just having a banter.
    Inadvertently committed a common grammatical error - Should be 'Alan and I are just having a banter', i.e. 'I' as subject, not 'me' as object.

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