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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie0517 View Post
    Congratulations bro, that means you have a good swing speed and is able to bend the shaft of the racquet during hitting- not everyone can do that. This happens, since the cone and the shaft are two different parts, made of different materials, joined by a thin layer of glue - it is natural the the paint eventually crack/chip due to repeated bending of shaft against cone - graphite may be flexible, paint is not. This type of "paint chip" also happens to other brands including Yonex and LiNing and is quite common amongst professional players

    I think asdsadas2008and I are referring to "resistance to paint chips" of the paints applied to the frame/shaft portion of the racquet. My MX80 has survived several clashes and is still free of paint chips.
    Yes, i also aware that cone and shaft are two different part and joined together. Strangely that does not happen to my other rackets. I am also get confused with MX80, but since it still play well, i just assume it is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxout View Post
    Quality is good but durability sucks (like everything else nowadays ) so you have to buy new one more frequently .... they don't make them to last anymore ... no money to be made for doing so ....

    Just imagine, my Cab20 lasts 5-10 years while newer fancier ones about 1-2 years .... so guess who is "spending" more money ....
    Yeah Carbonex...my Cab 8 has survived from several hard clashes, bad stringing, etc...

    The same ideas applies when a racket manufacturer stop the production of existing racket product for example Yonex Ti.10 1st and 2nd gen, AT700 old, and bunch of MP and Cab series, they stop the production of that rackets, so that existing users at some point will have to switch and find out new rackets. That is why we could see a lot of threads be created for asking racket substitution to discontinued model although not all racket substitutions thread related to discontinued models. If the users are picky enough, they might spend their money buying several type of rackets to find out which one is the closest to their beloved racket, which at the end increasing profit for the racket manufacturer. If the users are not that picky, maybe they bought 1 or 2 new rackets which at the end still beneficial rather than nothing be purchased.

    In my opinion, it is very normal. They have to be profitable, thus they can survive and paying salary to their employees. Their employees have enough money to spend on other needs, the cycle will goes on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie0517 View Post
    Congratulations bro, that means you have a good swing speed and is able to bend the shaft of the racquet during hitting- not everyone can do that. This happens, since the cone and the shaft are two different parts, made of different materials, joined by a thin layer of glue - it is natural the the paint eventually crack/chip due to repeated bending of shaft against cone - graphite may be flexible, paint is not. This type of "paint chip" also happens to other brands including Yonex and LiNing and is quite common amongst professional players

    I think asdsadas2008and I are referring to "resistance to paint chips" of the paints applied to the frame/shaft portion of the racquet. My MX80 has survived several clashes and is still free of paint chips.
    Yup, thanks for explaining zombie0517...i misunderstood Licin's statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky_Boy02 View Post
    I have heard that LiNing rackets are not durable and tends to break easily, hence not very good quality. Is that true?
    Not really, depends on your usage. I've been using my N77ii for almost 2 years with countless clashes and it's still intact , a lot of paint chips though

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    ohhh....i just wonder whether yonex racket (SP) can string at 28 or 29lbs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrokcetong View Post
    Lining or Yonex racket..pls some help me..
    Which want more better and have good quality..
    from the bay area in california in the usa, N series rackets are more expensive than the top of the line non limited edition yonex rackets. i don't use my n90 and n50 that much because they are just too heavy for me. yonex paint quality is top notch in my opinion, at least for the high high end rackets, and so are the n series rackets, but the stickers on the n series rackets are sorta out dated and somewhat tacky...maybe because in my mind, stuff from china is always outdated and tacky...i am just weird...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    from the bay area in california in the usa, N series rackets are more expensive than the top of the line non limited edition yonex rackets. i don't use my n90 and n50 that much because they are just too heavy for me. yonex paint quality is top notch in my opinion, at least for the high high end rackets, and so are the n series rackets, but the stickers on the n series rackets are sorta out dated and somewhat tacky...maybe because in my mind, stuff from china is always outdated and tacky...i am just weird...
    so what racket do u use??

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    Well it's hard to comment on durability as it's not a level playing field.

    Firstly the old racquets (Cab 20, 21 etc) tend to be either U or 2U. The current preference tends to be 3U or even 4U racquets which have less material so are generally less durable, not to mention that old racquets are strung to far lower tensions.

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    I have heard that LiNing rackets are not durable and tends to break easily, hence not very good quality. Is that true?
    Its not true for N-series rackets.

    I Play with Li Ning since 3 years + now N90, N90II, N50, N50II and N77.
    And only the N50 broke in a clash, and the handle of my N90 and N90II broke (but breaking handles is normal for me, actually rackets of other brands never survived as long as the Li Ning for me. (And i got a new racket for free after i returned the rackets with broken handle)

    I had some racket clashes, floor-hits and wall hits with my N90 N90II N50 II and they always survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greblu View Post
    Its not true for N-series rackets.

    I Play with Li Ning since 3 years + now N90, N90II, N50, N50II and N77.
    And only the N50 broke in a clash, and the handle of my N90 and N90II broke (but breaking handles is normal for me, actually rackets of other brands never survived as long as the Li Ning for me. (And i got a new racket for free after i returned the rackets with broken handle)

    I had some racket clashes, floor-hits and wall hits with my N90 N90II N50 II and they always survived.
    interesting..can u review N55 II to me..interesting with it..

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    Can anyone review N90 and N90II for me? I'm a AT700 first gen user and I just broke my racket last week and am planning on getting a closer racket to my AT700 first gen. First, many people recommend N90 as the closest racket to AT700 first gen, but I found out the stiffness of AT700 is rather stiff-flex (I'm not sure, just because I manage to bend the racket head by a little and I assume it's stiff-flex). If AT700 first gen is stiff-flex, shouldn't the N90II be closer to it? Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

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    I would go with Yonex racquets, as I have been using it from a long time. I have not used any other racquets, one of my friends had told me even Head racquets are good. At the end of the day it is not the racquet, its how well you play :-)
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